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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2008, 11:51:42 am »
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The only reason i put Thomas at the 3 was because i was thinking of having Beasley be our downlow guy, more on the block for us. But either way would work doesnt really matter to me.



Just to let you all know, that there is a source saying that in draft night there will be either a trade for beasley or wade.
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2008, 12:21:17 pm »
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The only reason i put Thomas at the 3 was because i was thinking of having Beasley be our downlow guy, more on the block for us. But either way would work doesnt really matter to me.



Just to let you all know, that there is a source saying that in draft night there will be either a trade for beasley or wade.


Would that trade involve the Bulls and, if so, would it include Rose?
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2008, 12:21:59 pm »
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The only reason i put Thomas at the 3 was because i was thinking of having Beasley be our downlow guy, more on the block for us. But either way would work doesnt really matter to me.



Just to let you all know, that there is a source saying that in draft night there will be either a trade for beasley or wade.



Unless Wade is really fed up in Miami, I doubt he gets delt.  While I dont agree we should trade our pick for him.  I would give up any combination of any player on the team if he really does want to play here.  I know alot of people think we can just wait and sign him when he becomes a FA, but theres no promise that he would play for us.  Look at Garnett and Finley, they are Chicago natives but they still chose other teams over Chicago, even though we were a team on the rise and had the money to pay them.  It would be alot cheaper and we can get more of Wades better years if we got him now.  Its not everyday you have a chance at getting a superstar.  When's the last time you seen one on the Bulls? Plus I believe his asking price wouldnt be as insane as it was for Kobe or Garnett.  If we got Wade it would take a ton of pressure of the team, especially with Rose running the point.  It really all comes down to whats left in the frontcourt, and who else is added to the team.  I like Beasley but he's so much of a nucklehead i really dont see Paxson picking him.  That would be the most outrageous pick of his career.  But desperate men do desperate things so you never know.  Having said all that, I think Wade would be great for the Bulls.  Playing for his home town would really boost his self-esteem, and he could be our real Lebron.  Dont be surprised on draft night Wade and Miami' 2nd pick goes to Chicago for Deng and our 1st.  If people can get over this undying fascination with Derrick Rose, you'll quickly realize thats a damn good deal.
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2008, 02:38:37 pm »
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I wouldn't trade Rose for Wade, c'mon lets be real, Wade body take too much banging and they know Rose will be better than Wade. Rose has elevation, poise, body control, and he pass like Harry Houdini does magic. He's rare and I wouldn't do it. Can somebody please tell me what point guard will be enabled to stop Rose from doing what he wants, especially after Rondo setting this year and Rondo isn't even physical like Rose, look I wouldn't do it. Now if Paxson is smart he would know FA is coming soon and if Wade feel Chicago is where he wants to begin a new career, alright it's fine with me.


Rose will be a better than a top 5 guy in the NBA who put up one of the best finals performances of all time, and scored 25 PPG this year on a bad knee, yep total sense.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2008, 05:40:38 pm »
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If we do trade for Wade now, lets say in 2 years when he is a FA, he could if he really wants 2, just jet an go elsewhere an what would we be stuck with!? Nothing. You have to wait until he is healthy an he is a FA to go after him. Riley is smart, he'll trade Wade because he probably knows how bad these injuries have affected him. Hold onto Rose, he can be our Superstar for the time being (Hopefully).
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2008, 05:54:04 pm »
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Riley would never trade Wade
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ben gordon was a guy he trusted and always passed to when he was open.  those other guys are not the kind of shooters i'm talking about, they are more mid range guys.  how many times did we see rose get hinrich, deng or salmons a wide open shot and those guys would pump fake then try to step in to get a better shot and end up passing up a wide open 3 for a contested 20 footer? they are not the kind of guy's rose needs.  i said when he was drafted that deng and hinrich had to go and
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2008, 06:37:57 pm »
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If we do trade for Wade now, lets say in 2 years when he is a FA, he could if he really wants 2, just jet an go elsewhere an what would we be stuck with!? Nothing. You have to wait until he is healthy an he is a FA to go after him. Riley is smart, he'll trade Wade because he probably knows how bad these injuries have affected him. Hold onto Rose, he can be our Superstar for the time being (Hopefully).


The same holds true for any player thats a FA.  But if a superstar like Wade is available for the taking, then you take him.  If we can get him without giving up our pick, then thats gravy.  What would you rather do, resign Gordon and Deng to a total of over 110mill combined for 5 years total, or trade one for Wade.  Suppose we sign both, are you so sure they'll live up to there promise.  

They sure didnt look like it last year, and people can stick up for them all they want about distractions, etc.  but its not like they were the only players who didnt get signed and were under alot of pressure and names were tossed in trades.  Other players in the same shoes as they were fed off the pressure, not gave into it.  They responded like children, not like adults ready to compete at a championship level, no matter how sincere they appear.  Now ask yourself, if you're Paxson, doesnt that make you a little worried?  

Some think Rose is gonna come in and be a GOD on the court, and granted the kid is really talented.  Alone, even he wont be enough to make the Bulls a championship calibur team.  Personally I wouldnt trade the pick for Wade.  The rumor is Thomas, Hughes, and the pick for Wade on draft night night.  Throw in Miami second and Paxson just might do it.

C. Noah
PF. Gooden
SF. Beasley
SG. Wade
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2008, 07:39:43 pm »
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The only reason i put Thomas at the 3 was because i was thinking of having Beasley be our downlow guy, more on the block for us. But either way would work doesnt really matter to me.



Just to let you all know, that there is a source saying that in draft night there will be either a trade for beasley or wade.


Would that trade involve the Bulls and, if so, would it include Rose?



The first trade where it includes, d-wade, yes it does. Another where Riley is giving up beasley, is because he is looking for
a point guard, and
who else that plays defense, plus he has said that he is
interested in kirk, the second option ad the point guard they try Getting in the first place since last years, before they re-signed him is mo williams, from the bucks.
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2008, 07:43:03 pm »
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If we do trade for Wade now, lets say in 2 years when he is a FA, he could if he really wants 2, just jet an go elsewhere an what would we be stuck with!? Nothing. You have to wait until he is healthy an he is a FA to go after him. Riley is smart, he'll trade Wade because he probably knows how bad these injuries have affected him. Hold onto Rose, he can be our Superstar for the time being (Hopefully).


I can guarantee you if he does come
to Chicago he will retire as a bull an that is a fact. D-wade is
not that type of player, and if he does we have lebron in the other hand.
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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2008, 07:51:31 pm »
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The only reason i put Thomas at the 3 was because i was thinking of having Beasley be our downlow guy, more on the block for us. But either way would work doesnt really matter to me.



Just to let you all know, that there is a source saying that in draft night there will be either a trade for beasley or wade.



Unless Wade is really fed up in Miami, I doubt he gets delt.  While I dont agree we should trade our pick for him.  I would give up any combination of any player on the team if he really does want to play here.  I know alot of people think we can just wait and sign him when he becomes a FA, but theres no promise that he would play for us.  Look at Garnett and Finley,  Lthey are Chicago natives but they still chose other teams over Chicago, even though we were a team on the rise and had the money to pay them.  



It would be alot cheaper and we can get more of Wades better years if we got him now.  Its not everyday you have a chance at getting a superstar.  When's the last time you seen one on the Bulls? Plus I believe his asking price wouldnt be as insane as it was for Kobe or Garnett.  If we got Wade it
would take a ton of pressure of the team, especially with Rose running the point.  It really all comes down to whats left in the frontcourt, and who else is added to the team.  I like Beasley but he's so much of a nucklehead i really dont see Paxson picking him.  That would be the most outrageous pick of his career.  But desperate men do desperate things so you never know.  Having said all that, I think Wade would be great for the Bulls.  
Playing for his home town would really boost his self-esteem, and he could be our real Lebron.  Dont be surprised on draft night Wade and Miami' 2nd pick goes to Chicago for Deng and our 1st.  If people can get over this undying fascination with Derrick Rose, you'll quickly realize thats a damn good deal.


I agree, and disagree.
1. We did have a shot in getting KG, and even Kobe, one of Skiles did not decline KG trade, two if Kobe did not have his no trade clause. You need to look into details first.

2. Yes you're right that something will go down on draft night.
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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2008, 08:14:39 pm »
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We had a shot at getting KG, but it was partly his choice of where he ended up.  Boston was pursuing him for the longest.  It wasn't until they signed Ray Allen that he agreed to play there.  We had the better offer for KG, but Garnett just didnt want to play here.  Same goes for Finley.  That year when Dallas cut him loose we had the full midlevel exception like other teams, but he chose the Spurs.  And dont think for a second we actually had a chance at getting Kobe.  He used the Bulls to get what he wanted.  Its the act known as deception. He never intended on leaving LA, he just used his no-trade clause as leverage.  After all that, he still didn't win the title.  So it looks like your the one who needs to look into the details  #1 n only bulls fan.
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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2008, 08:55:44 pm »
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We had a shot at getting KG, but it was partly his choice of where he ended up.  Boston was pursuing him for the longest.  It wasn't until they signed Ray Allen that he agreed to play there.  We had the better offer for KG, but Garnett just didnt want to play here.  Same goes for Finley.  That year when Dallas cut him loose we had the full midlevel exception like other teams, but he chose the Spurs.  And dont think for a second we actually had a chance at getting Kobe.  He used the Bulls to get what he wanted.  Its the act known as deception. He never intended on leaving LA, he just used his no-trade clause as leverage.  After all that, he still didn't win the title.  So it looks like your the one who needs to look into the details  #1 n only bulls fan.


Are you serious on what you're saying?HuhHuh? Did you not see reports on this. Even paxson said on an interview, that he trusted skiles, even when skiles did not want his core broken, which means that he did not let KG, go to Chicago.

Kobe in the other hand, and this were reports on Kobe, that said if the bulls involve loul deng, and Wallace, he is not going that way. LOL lol LOL, your funny. Even wade was asked like 2 weeks ago, what would it be if he was traded to Chicago, he said he would love Playing in Chicago, and trust me any body knows how we bull fans make noise, and just to say that we have the better starting line presentation.
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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2008, 09:12:08 pm »
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We had a shot at getting KG, but it was partly his choice of where he ended up.  Boston was pursuing him for the longest.  It wasn't until they signed Ray Allen that he agreed to play there.  We had the better offer for KG, but Garnett just didnt want to play here.  Same goes for Finley.  That year when Dallas cut him loose we had the full midlevel exception like other teams, but he chose the Spurs.  And dont think for a second we actually had a chance at getting Kobe.  He used the Bulls to get what he wanted.  Its the act known as deception. He never intended on leaving LA, he just used his no-trade clause as leverage.  After all that, he still didn't win the title.  So it looks like your the one who needs to look into the details  #1 n only bulls fan.


The offer was off the table from Chicago's view at that point.  Most analysts had the Bulls favored to win the East and Deng was supposed to become a 22-9 guy while Tyrus Thomas was supposed to break out.  Hinrich's scoring was supposed to go down while at the same time his assists were supposed to go up.  The Bulls had no need to trade for KG at that point in time.  Everything was looking on the rise.

And then Kobe told reporters to go buy a Bulls jersey...
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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2008, 09:26:05 pm »
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We had a shot at getting KG, but it was partly his choice of where he ended up.  Boston was pursuing him for the longest.  It wasn't until they signed Ray Allen that he agreed to play there.  We had the better offer for KG, but Garnett just didnt want to play here.  Same goes for Finley.  That year when Dallas cut him loose we had the full midlevel exception like other teams, but he chose the Spurs.  And dont think for a second we actually had a chance at getting Kobe.  He used the Bulls to get what he wanted.  Its the act known as deception. He never intended on leaving LA, he just used his no-trade clause as leverage.  After all that, he still didn't win the title.  So it looks like your the one who needs to look into the details  #1 n only bulls fan.


The offer was off the table from Chicago's view at that point.  Most analysts had the Bulls favored to win the East and Deng was supposed to become a 22-9 guy while Tyrus Thomas was supposed to break out.  Hinrich's scoring
was supposed to go down while at the same time his assists were supposed to go up.  The Bulls had no need to trade for KG at that point in time.  Everything was looking on the rise.

And then Kobe told reporters to go buy a Bulls jersey...



Bam!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you greenwing, that something I had missed out on, and
this guy said that nobody wants to be a bull, get your facts together, what player would use some type of stategy, to supposedly get there players, to improve, LOL LOL LOL LOL. Trust me I wouldn't doubt that he
still gets traded, because his time is running out, the future is
Bron, and wade.
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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2008, 09:33:37 pm »
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We had a shot at getting KG, but it was partly his choice of where he ended up.  Boston was pursuing him for the longest.  It wasn't until they signed Ray Allen that he agreed to play there.  We had the better offer for KG, but Garnett just didnt want to play here.  Same goes for Finley.  That year when Dallas cut him loose we had the full midlevel exception like other teams, but he chose the Spurs.  And dont think for a second we actually had a chance at getting Kobe.  He used the Bulls to get what he wanted.  Its the act known as deception. He never intended on leaving LA, he just used his no-trade clause as leverage.  After all that, he still didn't win the title.  So it looks like your the one who needs to look into the details  #1 n only bulls fan.


Are you serious on what you're saying?HuhHuh? Did you not see reports on this. Even paxson said on an interview, that he trusted skiles, even when skiles did not want his core broken, which means that he did not let KG, go to Chicago.

Kobe in the other hand, and this were reports on Kobe, that said if the bulls involve loul deng, and Wallace, he is not going that way. LOL lol LOL, your funny. Even wade was asked like 2 weeks ago, what would it be if he was traded to Chicago, he said he would love Playing in Chicago, and trust me any body knows how we bull fans make noise, and just to say that we have the better starting line presentation.



Well, you've got your opinion, and I've got mine.  But i remember how the whole thing went down.  Its been reported several times from several different sources that Paxson made an offer to the Twolves for Garnett.  Answer me this, if Paxson had so much faith in Skiles why isnt he coaching the Bulls now? Your right, Skiles didnt want to break up the core, and neither did Paxson.  But paxson still made the T-Wolves a good offer, but they turned it down.  

People like to think Paxson doesn't make an effort to bring a star to the team, but he always does.  The problem is the other parties asking price is way too high.  They want us to gutt the entire roster for one player, Gasol was a prime example of that.  We made him a better offer than the Lakers, but the Grizzlies wanted everything.  When they didnt get what they wanted from us, the took LA's offer as a smack in the face.  You can even put D'Antoni in that category.  Paxson and Reinsdorf was preparing a reasonable offer for him.  NewYork threw a ton of money at him, and he forgot all about the Bulls.  

If you really believe Kobe ever seriously had a dying wish to play for the Bulls then your the one who's funny.  I take that back, your not funny but gullible.  It looks like Kobe succeeded in decieving you as well.  Here's a word of advice, watch out for CON-men.  There crafty and sneaky people. I'd hate to find out your somewhere getting swindled.
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