HERE GOES THE WADE RUMORS

[Jason Rubin]

Kobe absolutely wanted to play for the Bulls.  In Kobe's mind, he's the greatest player of all time and he wanted, and still probably does want, to take away from Jordan's legacy.  Come on, the guy changed his number from 8 to 24 - which is 23 + 1.  If he could win a championship in Chicago, it would have forever drawn the comparisons between the two players.  But since Kobe lost in the Finals (with Phil as his coach and a very good supporting cast), he can never be considered the greatest of all time - not that he ever was, anyway.

[The Vision]

Okay okay okay!  Your partly right, lol.  But if Kobe's biggest argument is that he's not a Jordan clone, then wouldn't him playing in Chicago be arguing against his own argument.  I still think it was all just a plan of his, I could be wrong but thats just the way I see it.  Think about it, he was bashing the Lakers with comments like, "trade the whole team to NewJersey for Jason Kidd." When LA refused to build the team, thats when he start talking about going to the Bulls.  He was even looking at houses in Chicago, and talking trash to his buddys in public about how much the Lakers suck.  He knew the Lakers couldnt trade him because of his no trade clause so he backed the organization in a corner.  Dont you find it a little suspicious that after he seen how much Bynum had improved and after the Gasol trade he kept his mouth closed.  Theres a strong chance Kobe used the Bulls as a beach-head to get what he wanted.  As for Garnett, I was refering to the first trade purposal when we still had Chandler.  Paxson did make an attempt to trade for him.

[GMJames]

Sorry Greenwing but your wrong. Kobe wanted the lakers to bring in some better players. Kobe wants to and will always want to be a Laker. The Bulls were just a way for him to force the lakers to put up or shut up. They Put up and he won that agruement. If the lakers didn't make any moves he would then have left, But he knew that wasn't going to happen. And 24 is 8 times 3, The number of titles he has won. Ocho Cinco

[The Vision]

Sorry Greenwing but your wrong. Kobe wanted the lakers to bring in some better players. Kobe wants to and will always want to be a Laker. The Bulls were just a way for him to force the lakers to put up or shut up. They Put up and he won that agruement. If the lakers didn't make any moves he would then have left, But he knew that wasn't going to happen.

Thanks, GMJames!

[#1 n only bullfan]

We had a shot at getting KG, but it was partly his choice of where he ended up.  Boston was pursuing him for the longest.  It wasn't until they signed Ray Allen that he agreed to play there.  We had the better offer for KG, but Garnett just didnt want to play here.  Same goes for Finley.  That year when Dallas cut him loose we had the full midlevel exception like other teams, but he chose the Spurs.  And dont think for a second we actually had a chance at getting Kobe.  He used the Bulls to get what he wanted.  Its the act known as deception. He never intended on leaving LA, he just used his no-trade clause as leverage.  After all that, he still didn't win the title.  So it looks like your the one who needs to look into the details  #1 n only bulls fan.

Are you serious on what you're saying?? Did you not see reports on this. Even paxson said on an interview, that he trusted skiles, even when skiles did not want his core broken, which means that he did not let KG, go to Chicago.

Kobe in the other hand, and this were reports on Kobe, that said if the bulls involve loul deng, and Wallace, he is not going that way. LOL lol LOL, your funny. Even wade was asked like 2 weeks ago, what would it be if he was traded to Chicago, he said he would love Playing in Chicago, and trust me any body knows how we bull fans make noise, and just to say that we have the better starting line presentation.

Well, you've got your opinion, and I've got mine.  But i remember how the whole thing went down.  Its been reported several times from several different sources that Paxson made an offer to the Twolves for Garnett.  Answer me this, if Paxson had so much faith in Skiles why isnt he coaching the Bulls now? Your right, Skiles didnt want to break up the core, and neither did Paxson.  But paxson still made the T-Wolves a good offer, but they turned it down.  

People like to think Paxson doesn't make an effort to bring a star to the team, but he always does.  The problem is the other parties asking price is way too high.  They want us to gutt the entire roster for one player, Gasol was a prime example of that.  We made him a better offer than the Lakers, but the Grizzlies wanted everything.  When they didnt get what they wanted from us, the took LA's offer as a smack in the face.  You can even put D'Antoni in that category.  Paxson and Reinsdorf was preparing a reasonable offer for him.  NewYork threw a ton of money at him, and he forgot all about the Bulls.  

If you really believe Kobe ever seriously had a dying wish to play for the Bulls then your the one who's funny.  I take that back, your not funny but gullible.  It looks like Kobe succeeded in decieving you as well.  Here's a word of advice, watch out for CON-men.  There crafty and sneaky people. I'd hate to find out your somewhere getting swindled.

No they did not, the wolves were willing to take deng, chandler, and gordon. but again skiles did not let the core be broken, and about him not coaching the bulls, did you not read, or get on espn. skiles got fired because he was not the coach he was last season, and did you forget how we started the season, i just dot know!! why people dont use the word logical. if you can used it sometimes, it would help you more before you post this comments.

[#1 n only bullfan]

Okay okay okay!  Your partly right, lol.  But if Kobe's biggest argument is that he's not a Jordan clone, then wouldn't him playing in Chicago be arguing against his own argument.  I still think it was all just a plan of his, I could be wrong but thats just the way I see it.  Think about it, he was bashing the Lakers with comments like, "trade the whole team to NewJersey for Jason Kidd." When LA refused to build the team, thats when he start talking about going to the Bulls.  He was even looking at houses in Chicago, and talking trash to his buddys in public about how much the Lakers suck.  He knew the Lakers couldnt trade him because of his no trade clause so he backed the organization in a corner.  Dont you find it a little suspicious that after he seen how much Bynum had improved and after the Gasol trade he kept his mouth closed.  Theres a strong chance Kobe used the Bulls as a beach-head to get what he wanted.  As for Garnett, I was refering to the first trade purposal when we still had Chandler.  Paxson did make an attempt to trade for him.

you want to talk about some one getting swindle, lol.l just re-read your post, do you really think kobe would go in the air, and  make such a thinkg up, he did get interview by stephen a. smith, this was something serious, and i swear on my momma, that when the he bacame a FA, IN 2004 he was also interview by stephen a. smith, and he asked kobe where was he thinking of going before he found out that shaq was traded, he said 2 teams CHICAGO, AND CLIPPERS. and then again he asked for a trade, to go to chicago!!!!!, but then people like you that like to use the word swindle, and are so ignorant, and are willing to buy that stuff about kobe just making this up, because he wanted his team to fall for it, and to become contenders, you got to be kidding. do your self a favor, lock up your username, fans like you dont deserve to be bull fans.

[#1 n only bullfan]

Sorry Greenwing but your wrong. Kobe wanted the lakers to bring in some better players. Kobe wants to and will always want to be a Laker. The Bulls were just a way for him to force the lakers to put up or shut up. They Put up and he won that agruement. If the lakers didn't make any moves he would then have left, But he knew that wasn't going to happen. And 24 is 8 times 3, The number of titles he has won. Ocho Cinco

GM JAMES,


please dont start, and start buying to that stuff. so you guys are telling me that he would do such a thing? just think about it. it would of been a higher risk, because every one thought that the lakers would be distracted to the kobe-trade talks. you dont go ahead and play off something like this, think about it. the bulls sunked them selves in because of all the rumors, how can a team that swept the heat, and lost to pistons in the 2nd round, and were favor to win the east, had a season like this. there has been interviews about gordon, and deng, where they say that the rumors were a distraction, and had to do alot with there season starting the way it did, and that is a reason why skiles is not there anymore.

lol llol lol this is hilarious.

[Jason Rubin]

Sorry Greenwing but your wrong. Kobe wanted the lakers to bring in some better players. Kobe wants to and will always want to be a Laker. The Bulls were just a way for him to force the lakers to put up or shut up. They Put up and he won that agruement. If the lakers didn't make any moves he would then have left, But he knew that wasn't going to happen. And 24 is 8 times 3, The number of titles he has won. Ocho Cinco

Look.  Kobe was begging management to surround him with good players for three years.  This is not something that just came up out of the blue.  Kobe had his choice of signing with the Lakers, Clippers and Bulls not too long ago.  He was extremely close to signing with the Bulls and had been known to publicly say that he loved the direction that John Paxson was taking the franchise.  So although Kobe's complaining was in part due to Kobe wanting wanting Kupchak to bring in better players, he wouldn't have said things publicly the way he did if he didn't want to play for the Bulls.

Those statements came from a guy with a no trade clause in his contract.  So no, you're wrong, GMJames.  Kobe legitimately wanted to be in Chicago.  But when he realized that the Lakers would force the Bulls to gut their team and would not include Luol Deng in the deal, talks broke down and Kobe had to suck it up.  Luckily for him, Bynum improved his play, Fisher was a positive addition to the lineup and an idiotic Memphis owner decided to give Gasol away.

[#1 n only bullfan]

Sorry Greenwing but your wrong. Kobe wanted the lakers to bring in some better players. Kobe wants to and will always want to be a Laker. The Bulls were just a way for him to force the lakers to put up or shut up. They Put up and he won that agruement. If the lakers didn't make any moves he would then have left, But he knew that wasn't going to happen. And 24 is 8 times 3, The number of titles he has won. Ocho Cinco

Look.  Kobe was begging management to surround him with good players for three years.  This is not something that just came up out of the blue.  Kobe had his choice of signing with the Lakers, Clippers and Bulls not too long ago.  He was extremely close to signing with the Bulls and had been known to publicly say that he loved the direction that John Paxson was taking the franchise.  So although Kobe's complaining was in part due to Kobe wanting wanting Kupchak to bring in better players, he wouldn't have said things publicly the way he did if he didn't want to play for the Bulls.

Those statements came from a guy with a no trade clause in his contract.  So no, you're wrong, GMJames.  Kobe legitimately wanted to be in Chicago.  But when he realized that the Lakers would force the Bulls to gut their team and would not include Luol Deng in the deal, talks broke down and Kobe had to suck it up.  Luckily for him, Bynum improved his play, Fisher was a positive addition to the lineup and an idiotic Memphis owner decided to give Gasol away.

you couldn't of said it better greenwing. i just dont understand how can people not use common sense, if people had some comon sense we would not be having this discussion.

correction, if gasol went to the lakers was because the lakers did not mind going in to luxury tax, which reports and sources say that the bulls did not want to go in to the luxury tax, knowing that gasol would not be the go to guy, and again if he went to the lakers was because the grizzlies were looking for expiring contracts, and that does not mean gasol didnt want to be here, in the other hand the lakers counldn't afford falling back to where they were last season, and that is why they went over the luxury tax, to keep kobe happy, because just imagine if the lakers were not to make it to the playoffs, or let's say that they fall back to the 8 seed, and then again they would be taken out the first round, because if you guys think about it, this would really had to lead into trading kobe, because of bynum injury, and this would mean, bunum injured no playoffs. you have to give it to the lakers organization, they made a smart move, but i still think that they will be hunted.

[The Vision]

I'll admit, I wasnt aware that Skiles threw the whole Garnett thing off.  I must've missed it, and I'm not ashamed to admit when I'm wrong at something.  

I already knew about Skiles being Fired, how can anyone call themselves a bulls fan and not know.  I meant Paxson lost his faith on Skiles, fired him, thats why he's not on the team anymore.  

As for the swindling comment, I didnt mean it in opposition towards anyone, and it was meant to be taken as a joke anyway, so please dont take it personal and calm down.

But here's a harsh reality about your favorite basketball player; he pulled a con-artist move.  I'll give him credit, he's real slick and obviously fooled alot of people pertaining to his motives.  Just so you know, I'm not the only person in the world who feels this way.  I got a test for you; Ask a few people there honest opinions regarding the situation and they'll tell you.  You'll see I'm not so crazy afterall.  I understand "con-artist" is a strong word when refering to people you care about.  I don't think he's a con-artist, but what he did was an act of con-artistry.

If it makes you feel any better I dont blame Kobe.  If he didnt pull that outrageous stunt, LA would've never improved and problably wouldn't have even made the playoffs this year, especially with Bynum going down.  Don't get me wrong here, I'm not trying to make Kobe out to be some sort of prankster.  He's my 2nd favorite player next to Vinsanity, and I think he's a wonderful person with great passion, desire, integrity, talented and is a really cool guy.  It's that one circumstance I disagree with, and he went about matters all wrong.

It's the selfishness of the situation that I dislike.  He must've forgotten how much LA stood up for him when he was being tried for that sexual harrassment case which wasn't too long ago (by the way, I believe he was innocent) If it weren't for the Lakers and the NBA backing him up 100%, he could've really done some jail time and kissed his hoop dreams good-buy.  But he's only human so I understand he's not perfect.

So all that wining was unnecessary, he should've just been grateful that he's still in the NBA as a free man thanks to the organization and the people who care about him. Like I said earlier, "after all that, he still didn't win the championship."

Off the record, check this out! Good laugh!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3457917