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Millertime31
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« on: October 30, 2006, 03:20:53 pm »
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Last summer the Pacers traded up to get the first pick of the second round.  They drafted James White.  I remember Bird or Walsh saying that White was the other player they would have taken with their first round pick if they had not picked Shawne Williams.  

So to recap:

1)  They traded up to get him.

2)   They told the fans they considered him to be like a first round pick.

3)   They gave him a guaranteed contract.

4)   They cut him from the team.


With no sarcasm at all, I have to applaud this last move.  Sometimes you make mistakes.  Sometimes other players surprise you and you have to just swallow your pride and cut him loose.  Orien Greene, Rawle Marshall or Josh Powell are all young players that could have been cut and few people would have thought much about it.  The Pacers have shown that they will keep the guys that give them the best chance to win.  

My only regret is that they didn't keep White and cut Jasikevicous, the 30 year old point guard who can't play defense and turns the ball over too much.  Of course, he is in the second year of a 3 year, 12 million dollar contract.  Obviously there is a limit to how much pride the Pacers are willing to swallow.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2006, 05:51:28 pm »
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I hated seeing us lose White, but I understand the move.  Powell and Marshall are both young, and have skills, and are closer to being able to contribute.

White will probably get picked up quickly off the wire.

I agree that is was interesting to see a team make the move that seemed best for the team.  I would have rather seen them move Tinsley, Saras or Jackson, and make room for White.

I am also happy to see them keep Orien Greene.
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2006, 06:06:31 pm »
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white isnt that good he is an amazing athlete but his other parts of his game where lacking, marshall and powell both are young and can defend a bit and got some game. green is the insurance incase tinsley gets injured and armstong is a bit old to be playin a huge amount of minutes
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2006, 10:20:15 pm »
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Last summer the Pacers traded up to get the first pick of the second round.  They drafted James White.  I remember Bird or Walsh saying that White was the other player they would have taken with their first round pick if they had not picked Shawne Williams.  

So to recap:

1)  They traded up to get him.

2)   They told the fans they considered him to be like a first round pick.

3)   They gave him a guaranteed contract.

4)   They cut him from the team.


With no sarcasm at all, I have to applaud this last move.  Sometimes you make mistakes.  Sometimes other players surprise you and you have to just swallow your pride and cut him loose.  Orien Greene, Rawle Marshall or Josh Powell are all young players that could have been cut and few people would have thought much about it.  The Pacers have shown that they will keep the guys that give them the best chance to win.  

My only regret is that they didn't keep White and cut Jasikevicous, the 30 year old point guard who can't play defense and turns the ball over too much.  Of course, he is in the second year of a 3 year, 12 million dollar contract.  Obviously there is a limit to how much pride the Pacers are willing to swallow.


1. i think they choose the right player to cut.. and swallowed pride..

2.  sarunas is be good this season.. just watch..

3. WE HAVE 4 OF THE BEST BENCH CHEERLEADERS IN THE NBA (last yrs mavs) ON OUR BENCH.. ATTITUDE WILL SURELY ONLY IMPROVE WITH THIS..
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006, 11:36:38 am »
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks this is a bad move?

I think White will turn out to be a star for some other team. He's an excellent defender and athlete, and has a ton of upside. It might take him a season or two to get up to NBA speed, but in a couple years management and fans will look back at this, and look at this years roster and scratch their heads, wondering how the heck Rawle Marshall and Orien Green made the team.

Marshall in particular will see little or no action this season, and be buried on the bench just like James White would've been. He would've had plenty of time and opportunities to develop. It's a shame that management lost faith in the kid after giving up so much to get him.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2006, 05:17:20 pm »
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks this is a bad move?

I think White will turn out to be a star for some other team. He's an excellent defender and athlete, and has a ton of upside. It might take him a season or two to get up to NBA speed, but in a couple years management and fans will look back at this, and look at this years roster and scratch their heads, wondering how the heck Rawle Marshall and Orien Green made the team.

Marshall in particular will see little or no action this season, and be buried on the bench just like James White would've been. He would've had plenty of time and opportunities to develop. It's a shame that management lost faith in the kid after giving up so much to get him.


1. Marshall is really are only backup to granger in the small line-up.. so he'll get court time..

2. Marshall is born '83 and white is '82.. marshall is younger and been in the league longer..


3. they believe white wont really improve that much from where hes at.. and marshall is simply a better player..
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2006, 07:14:43 am »
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks this is a bad move?

I think White will turn out to be a star for some other team. He's an excellent defender and athlete, and has a ton of upside. It might take him a season or two to get up to NBA speed, but in a couple years management and fans will look back at this, and look at this years roster and scratch their heads, wondering how the heck Rawle Marshall and Orien Green made the team.

Marshall in particular will see little or no action this season, and be buried on the bench just like James White would've been. He would've had plenty of time and opportunities to develop. It's a shame that management lost faith in the kid after giving up so much to get him.


white cant shoot which bad for sg/sf ,hasnt got great handling and he not a great defender. It great being Athletic but when u cant do other things he just be called potentially good player. It like Harold miner all over again  :twisted:
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2006, 07:22:52 am »
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks this is a bad move?

I think White will turn out to be a star for some other team. He's an excellent defender and athlete, and has a ton of upside. It might take him a season or two to get up to NBA speed, but in a couple years management and fans will look back at this, and look at this years roster and scratch their heads, wondering how the heck Rawle Marshall and Orien Green made the team.

Marshall in particular will see little or no action this season, and be buried on the bench just like James White would've been. He would've had plenty of time and opportunities to develop. It's a shame that management lost faith in the kid after giving up so much to get him.


white cant shoot which bad for sg/sf ,hasnt got great handling and he not a great defender. It great being Athletic but when u cant do other things he just be called potentially good player. It like Harold miner all over again  :twisted:


he can defend.. he was just not used to hand checking rule..
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2006, 02:54:46 pm »
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Well James White signed a 2-year deal with the Spurs. Apparently they know talent when they see it! Now he'll get to learn from Bruce Bowen and become a key defensive specialist in their next championship run.

Meanwhile we've got Rawle Marshall. Awesome.  :?
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2006, 03:05:52 pm »
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Well James White signed a 2-year deal with the Spurs. Apparently they know talent when they see it! Now he'll get to learn from Bruce Bowen and become a key defensive specialist in their next championship run.

Meanwhile we've got Rawle Marshall. Awesome.  :?


he only got a partial guarnteed contract so if he sucks he be out because he isnt fully signed but i dont understand the rules with partial guarentee
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2006, 05:51:36 pm »
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spurs got him
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2006, 06:25:26 pm »
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spurs got him


I could've sworn I posted that already...
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2006, 07:49:27 pm »
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spurs got him


I could've sworn I posted that already...


lol i was in a rush so i didnt read above..
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2006, 02:43:48 pm »
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Well James White signed a 2-year deal with the Spurs. Apparently they know talent when they see it! Now he'll get to learn from Bruce Bowen and become a key defensive specialist in their next championship run.

Meanwhile we've got Rawle Marshall. Awesome.  :?


i don't see this as such a bad thing, pacers freed up space and spurs got some athleticism
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2006, 03:57:12 pm »
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Well James White signed a 2-year deal with the Spurs. Apparently they know talent when they see it! Now he'll get to learn from Bruce Bowen and become a key defensive specialist in their next championship run.
As smart as R.C Buford has shown himself to be, Larry Bird and Donnie Walsh don't let all-stars slip away from them unnoticed. I trust the management's assesment of White and decision to let him go.
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