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« on: December 18, 2008, 02:14:50 pm »
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So Mr. Cancer/Blackhole looked pretty unselfish last night.  Did he finally grow up or at least take what everyone has been saying about him to heart?  If he plays like he did last night for the rest of his career, maybe it's unfortunate that the bulls didnt try to get him.  he was dominant while also offering up 6 assists.
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2008, 02:33:44 pm »
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zbo shoulda lost that label when he got into ny
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ben gordon was a guy he trusted and always passed to when he was open.  those other guys are not the kind of shooters i'm talking about, they are more mid range guys.  how many times did we see rose get hinrich, deng or salmons a wide open shot and those guys would pump fake then try to step in to get a better shot and end up passing up a wide open 3 for a contested 20 footer? they are not the kind of guy's rose needs.  i said when he was drafted that deng and hinrich had to go and
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2008, 04:09:29 pm »
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I think he's turned a corner. He should be a good player now. He's definitely putting more effort in on the defensive end even if he doesn't have the physical tools to be successful there.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2008, 04:42:34 pm »
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People have said that about Marbury every time he's changed teams (and they'll say it about him next year again).  Its only a matter of time.  Guys like are great for about a month.  Then their mental mistakes and ego cause frustration in themselves and moreover their teammates, and rifts happen, their teams start losing (its happened everywhere they've gone) and the cycle just keeps getting worse and worse until they're thrown out again.  Players like that don't change.
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2008, 04:55:36 pm »
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He's been playing well lately, but it'll take a lot more to convince me that he isn't a black hole. I'm sold that he's a good citizen, but as for him making teams better, like I said, it's going to take more to convince me.
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2008, 10:42:53 am »
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So Mr. Cancer/Blackhole looked pretty unselfish last night.  Did he finally grow up or at least take what everyone has been saying about him to heart?  If he plays like he did last night for the rest of his career, maybe it's unfortunate that the bulls didnt try to get him.  he was dominant while also offering up 6 assists.


First off, who won the game?

Second, just how many playoff series has Zack Randolph played in in how many years in the league? There's a reason he's always been on bad teams and there's a reason those teams are bad. And he's it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2008, 11:33:56 am »
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Second, just how many playoff series has Zack Randolph played in in how many years in the league? There's a reason he's always been on bad teams and there's a reason those teams are bad. And he's it.


Let's be a little fair to Zach. How many teams has he been on where he's been surrounded by top shelf talent? I appreciate that Z-Bo has flaws but he also has a nice offensive game and can rebound pretty well when he's inspired.
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2008, 11:41:25 am »
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So Mr. Cancer/Blackhole looked pretty unselfish last night.  Did he finally grow up or at least take what everyone has been saying about him to heart?  If he plays like he did last night for the rest of his career, maybe it's unfortunate that the bulls didnt try to get him.  he was dominant while also offering up 6 assists.


First off, who won the game?

Second, just how many playoff series has Zack Randolph played in in how many years in the league? There's a reason he's always been on bad teams and there's a reason those teams are bad. And he's it.


I'm not sure who won the game is relevant, considering the comment was made by a Bulls fan. God forbid he commend somebody from the opposing team for having a good game :roll: .
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2008, 02:51:16 pm »
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So Mr. Cancer/Blackhole looked pretty unselfish last night.  Did he finally grow up or at least take what everyone has been saying about him to heart?  If he plays like he did last night for the rest of his career, maybe it's unfortunate that the bulls didnt try to get him.  he was dominant while also offering up 6 assists.


First off, who won the game?

Second, just how many playoff series has Zack Randolph played in in how many years in the league? There's a reason he's always been on bad teams and there's a reason those teams are bad. And he's it.


lmao please remove ur keyboard
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ben gordon was a guy he trusted and always passed to when he was open.  those other guys are not the kind of shooters i'm talking about, they are more mid range guys.  how many times did we see rose get hinrich, deng or salmons a wide open shot and those guys would pump fake then try to step in to get a better shot and end up passing up a wide open 3 for a contested 20 footer? they are not the kind of guy's rose needs.  i said when he was drafted that deng and hinrich had to go and
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2008, 03:37:56 pm »
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He's been playing well lately, but it'll take a lot more to convince me that he isn't a black hole. I'm sold that he's a good citizen, but as for him making teams better, like I said, it's going to take more to convince me.


Ehh, he'll be a good passer one night, then selfish the next. No matter what he ends up taking a lot of shots. Sometimes he saves you and sometimes he kills you. It's just the kind of player he is.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2008, 01:55:16 am »
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Bottom line, where Randolph has gone, failure has followed, and I'm not about to let a stint of a couple of weeks change the course of an entire career.
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2008, 01:56:00 am »
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So Mr. Cancer/Blackhole looked pretty unselfish last night.  Did he finally grow up or at least take what everyone has been saying about him to heart?  If he plays like he did last night for the rest of his career, maybe it's unfortunate that the bulls didnt try to get him.  he was dominant while also offering up 6 assists.


First off, who won the game?

Second, just how many playoff series has Zack Randolph played in in how many years in the league? There's a reason he's always been on bad teams and there's a reason those teams are bad. And he's it.


lmao please remove ur keyboard


Why? He makes good points.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2008, 12:18:31 pm »
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His teams weren't good in the WESTERN conference.... Let's be serious what do u expect from a roster of guys that he was playing with? 1 year in NY with Isiah, nuff said.... Then this year the team was actually winning with him putting up great #s, moving the ball more so on and so forth yet he's moved from a possible playoff team not because of anything to do with his game but because his contract is too long and gets put into another losing situation.

So as somebody who has watched ZBo for basically the last 4-5 years I've seen how much he's changed as a person and even on offense he's different in terms of getting the ball and never giving it back.
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ben gordon was a guy he trusted and always passed to when he was open.  those other guys are not the kind of shooters i'm talking about, they are more mid range guys.  how many times did we see rose get hinrich, deng or salmons a wide open shot and those guys would pump fake then try to step in to get a better shot and end up passing up a wide open 3 for a contested 20 footer? they are not the kind of guy's rose needs.  i said when he was drafted that deng and hinrich had to go and
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2008, 03:26:05 pm »
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Bottom line, where Randolph has gone, failure has followed, and I'm not about to let a stint of a couple of weeks change the course of an entire career.


You're blaming way too much on Randolph. He really isn't as bad to a team as some people make it sound.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2008, 03:31:48 pm »
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So Mr. Cancer/Blackhole looked pretty unselfish last night.  Did he finally grow up or at least take what everyone has been saying about him to heart?  If he plays like he did last night for the rest of his career, maybe it's unfortunate that the bulls didnt try to get him.  he was dominant while also offering up 6 assists.


First off, who won the game?

Second, just how many playoff series has Zack Randolph played in in how many years in the league? There's a reason he's always been on bad teams and there's a reason those teams are bad. And he's it.


lmao please remove ur keyboard


Why? He makes good points.


He makes terrible points. The first one is just flame bait and I addressed that earlier. The other is just needless bashing on Randolph. I think players like him get these images into peoples heads of being "cancers" or "horrible team players" and when/if they finally get there act together people have a hard time coming to terms with it. I'm guilty of it myself, but I think that's what's happening here.
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