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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2008, 12:51:38 am »
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The teams he's played on have immediately gotten better after he's left as well. Look at how the Knicks are doing, how well the Blazers started playing. There's two examples right there of teams who have gotten better after he's left the team, and if it's because of the trades made, then with him being the one being traded, obviously that doesn't help him either. If it had just been a bad team that was bad before and bad after, I could see that, but this hasn't been the case for the most part, although I'll be willing to concede the Knicks for the same reason that I'm not praising him yet for the improvement of the Clippers. There's good reason that Randolph has a bad reputation.
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2008, 01:28:47 am »
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The teams he's played on have immediately gotten better after he's left as well. Look at how the Knicks are doing, how well the Blazers started playing. There's two examples right there of teams who have gotten better after he's left the team, and if it's because of the trades made, then with him being the one being traded, obviously that doesn't help him either. If it had just been a bad team that was bad before and bad after, I could see that, but this hasn't been the case for the most part, although I'll be willing to concede the Knicks for the same reason that I'm not praising him yet for the improvement of the Clippers. There's good reason that Randolph has a bad reputation.


The Knicks were on a good season before he left the Knicks. Their strong play is because of D'Antoni. They only didn't want him because of his contract length.

The Blazers got better when he left because it gave LaMarcus Aldridge a chance to start, so there was really no downgrade at all. Also the team was still the youngest team in the league at the time, so they had gotten a year better. Randolph leaving had virtually nothing to do with the team's improved record.

Randolph's not Stephon Marbury. He doesn't make a team bad. He's a guy who needs a lot of shots but isn't a leader. Those two things don't usually mix well in the NBA. GMs and coaches like the guy who takes the most shots to also lead the team. Zach just isn't a superstar. That's all there is to it.
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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2008, 02:14:46 am »
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Usually when a team loses a guy who can put up those kind of numbers without getting much, if anything (Steve Francis) in return, they don't get any better though.
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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2008, 02:45:13 pm »
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1 they did it for capspace, two C. Frye was a top 10 pick, was a top canidate for ROTY and was a good risk coming off his nasty injury but they haven't even needed him so that just goes to show how good LaMarcus, Brandon Roy and the rest of the team grew and got better.
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ben gordon was a guy he trusted and always passed to when he was open.  those other guys are not the kind of shooters i'm talking about, they are more mid range guys.  how many times did we see rose get hinrich, deng or salmons a wide open shot and those guys would pump fake then try to step in to get a better shot and end up passing up a wide open 3 for a contested 20 footer? they are not the kind of guy's rose needs.  i said when he was drafted that deng and hinrich had to go and
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