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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2009, 09:30:53 am »
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I've seen Kiper having the Redskins taking the Defensive End out of Texas in recent mock drafts, which I'm fine with because they've needed help on the defensive line for like decade now.  They also need major help at linebackers and the offensive line (age and injuries), and I wouldn't mind another starting receiver.
I see the need for a receiver but unless they can acquire a tall, veteran receiver, do u really see them giving up on Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas after just 1 year?
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2009, 11:55:24 am »
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I've seen Kiper having the Redskins taking the Defensive End out of Texas in recent mock drafts, which I'm fine with because they've needed help on the defensive line for like decade now.  They also need major help at linebackers and the offensive line (age and injuries), and I wouldn't mind another starting receiver.
I see the need for a receiver but unless they can acquire a tall, veteran receiver, do u really see them giving up on Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas after just 1 year?
Kelly looks like a bust as he can't even get on the field or play with an injury.  Thomas has some potential, but that only leaves them with three potentially quality receivers and Randle-El isn't a starter and Thomas isn't there yet either.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2009, 12:56:47 pm »
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Falcons - Keep building the defense.  DT would be a good spot to draft for.  Keith Brooking is getting old, so drafting a possible replacement wouldn't be so bad.  Not much depth in the secondary either, really...
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2009, 08:16:11 pm »
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Well the Colts today signed Kelvin Hayden to a 5-year $43 million contract with a $22 million signing bonus.  Definitely some big bucks thrown out there, and while probably overpaying a little, are able to retain a young and talented corner in Hayden and can now use the franchise tag on Jeff Saturday, should they not be able to reach an agreement with him.  What this all probably means is that Marvin Harrison's career with the team is over and should be released within the coming days.
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2009, 08:14:01 pm »
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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2009, 10:11:04 pm »
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Okay, I figure there'll wind up being a lot of topics over the next couple of months about the NFL draft, so I'll go ahead and start the talk with a thread about what different teams need. I'm no expert on every team, but there's certain teams that I know enough about that I can talk about.

Chicago Bears - There's a lot that needs to be addressed. First off, the offensive line, which they wasted a pick on last year (turned out the guy had a real bad back), so it's doubtful if Williams will ever be anything. So an offensive tackle, guard, or center would be nice for the Bears to get. Another need is a pass rushing defensive end. Mark Anderson seems to have completely lost whatever he once had, and the Bears pass rush suffered greatly because of that. Next up would be a shut-down corner, or really a corner at all. Nathan Vasher also doesn't have it anymore, and really was almost a liability to have out there at times this year. Given he was hurt, but it's been a couple of years since he's really been much of anything. Peanut Tillman is still a good corner on the other side. Next up, a wide receiver. If there's good WRs available at their spot in the first round, I say that the Bears should go after them, since there's good talent at the WR spot in the first round. Only WR projected in the first round that I'm not a big fan of is Maclin, since when given real competition from a secondary he folded, but I don't think he'll even make it that far into the draft.

Detroit Lions - Anything and everything. Okay, well, not everything, but there's a lot that needs to be improved. It all starts with the base of the team, the offensive and defensive lines. If I'm the Lions, I pass on Stafford, there's just a little bit of a risk involved there, and the Lions need to be going for a sure thing, and Eugene Monroe is as close to a sure thing as a very good offensive lineman as I see in the draft. I'm just not positive that Stafford will be a very good NFL quarterback. Outside of that I can't think of a position that the Lions couldn't use help on in one way or another. I'd have to say that their best spot is at Wide Receiver, just because they have possibly the most physically gifted WR in the league right now.

San Francisco 49ers - It's gotta be the quarterback spot first and foremost for them. They have a good draft spot at #10 and no real good quarterback. Alex Smith looks like he was a bust for them, but they shouldn't be afraid to go after a good quarterback with their first pick. Sanchez or Freeman would seem to be the best options, I'd go with Sanchez if I was them, I think he has the ability to really be a very good quarterback, and I can't see the Niners passing on him if he falls to them. Freeman also looks good, but like with Stafford (who will surely be gone by then), I have my doubts. Other areas where the Niners need to improve is cornerback, offensive line (I'd say mainly tackle), and they could really use something like a pass rushing defensive end, linebacker, or even defensive tackle. I'm actually less sure than I was a month before the season ended with what they needed, only because it seems like Singletary with his wild pants-dropping schemes has actually gotten a lot more out of what they have.

Denver Broncos - When's the last time you've heard anyone say that the Broncos really need to develop a running game? ....Well? Seriously, answer me! Okay, fine  Roll Eyes . Anyway, as for skill positions, it's pretty obvious that if Beanie Wells falls to them, the Broncos go after him. When you have that good of a pick, unless it's a top of the class position player at that spot that you're drafting, or a position that's in dire need of help, you go with the skill guy. Beanie Wells, followed by Knowshon Moreno. LeSean McCoy is another good guy, but at that point I think the Broncos would rather either go to another skill position or go with a very good offensive lineman if there is one available. That brings me to my next need, offensive line, which is starting to look bad for the Broncos. I almost feel bad for guys like Nalen who were there when they had such a great line, and now have to sit around and watch a line that crumbles with every play. It really must be teh ghey and not be t*ts for him. Anyway, yeah, build up that line. Defense is a whole clusterf*ck of problems, so I'll just summarize and say pretty much everywhere has a need for assistance. Corner doesn't look to bad with that dynamic duo that the Broncos have (unless one of them is going to be leaving the team this offseason, I really have no idea), but health problems do worry me there. Like with everyone else, they should start with their problems by working on the base at the defensive line first and work their way up the pyramid from there.

Oakland Raiders - Wow, I almost called them the LA Raiders. Anyway, this is one of those cases like, with the Lions, you go after that desperate need. Besides, the Raiders don't really have a bad situation at all with their running back situation, and I still think that JaMarcus Russell will wind up being an excellent quarterback. Therefore, go ahead and go after the offensive lineman here, that's where they really need the most help at. They can't pass or run block right now, and with the #7 pick they should have no problem finding someone who really can, and even as a lineman can make a big difference in their team. Outside of that, defensive line can use a bit of tweaking, but the Raiders do have a very good defense already. The only way I see the Raiders not looking to build that offensive line in the draft's first round is if Michael Crabtree somehow falls to them, but I don't see that happening. If it does, then he could surely help the Raiders and they can build up that line in the second round and beyond. However, yeah, that offensive line is scary in a bad way due to how pathetic it is right now.

Minnesota Vikings - Quarterback!!! If Freeman's still available to them, then it'd be stupid of them to pass up on him in the first round. Outside of that, I could still see them being able to use a little more help up front on the offensive line (yeah, even though Peterson's already a world class back, he could be even better with better blocking), although the line's clearly not BAD. On defense their defensive line is great, but I could see a defensive back here or there being a help to the team.

Green Bay Packers - They could use an extra running back. In a 2 back league, Ryan Grant is good, but it's always good to have that second running back. Their defensive line is also going to need some help. I'd try to find a defensive end, first and foremost. If they could even have Brian Orakpo fall to them then that would make me really angry, but that's just because I'm a Bears fan, I do have my doubts though as to if he'll fall that far. On the corners they're going to start needing to think about getting some help there, and really as a whole in their defensive backfield. As for offense, they've got a killer group of receivers as well as a good running game (which I already addressed how it could get better), and the line is pretty good, but I feel like they could benefit from some sort of an addition at the tackle position.




Alright, if you think differently or if you want to throw any other teams in here or throw in a different perspective on a team that I've already gone over, then it's more than welcome. I'd like to see what other posters think on the issue of team needs in the NFL.
Just to bring life back to this topic I agree with everything here except Detroit
Detroit- Matthew Stafford will and should be the pick. The Lions haven't had a great Quarterback in 50 years since the curse Bobby Layne. Quarterback while there is always a risk there is more upside than any other position. Also Eugene Monroe and Jason Smith are good I don't know if there are future All-Pro Left Tackles there not as good as Joe Thomas and Jake Long were coming out of college in my opinion. Also I hear them taking Aaron Curry who is great but he is not look like a dominant enough player to pick him first.
Here are my team needs for my team

New York Jets- Well with Favre gone Quarterback is a question mark. I am not comfortable going into next season with Kellen Clemens and Brett Ratliff as our Quarterbacks. If Sanchez is there take him but I don't want Freeman. Also since Coles is probably gone local kid Kenny Britt or maybe Darius Heyward-Bey could be the pick hopefully Britt is available. Also a 5 technique Defense End like Tyson Jackson to put with Shaun Ellis would be nice too. Also we need help in the secondary hopefully Malcom Jenkins falls to us.

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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2009, 11:15:16 am »
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BREAKING NEWS: Rex Grossman is interested in the Lions.
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2009, 11:28:50 pm »
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Oakland Raiders- We desperately need wide recievers, defensive lineman, and all around playmakers.
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2009, 10:21:35 am »
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For the Bears i never wanted Williams. I was the biggest Jeff Otah fan there will ever be and he is doing great in Carolina right now.
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2009, 01:43:04 pm »
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Oakland Raiders- We desperately need wide recievers, defensive lineman, and all around playmakers.



i think some trades are brewing for us, bro.  al davis really likes shaun rogers.  he likes chad johnson too.  we have to see what direction cincy and cleveland take when they draft before us though.   

if the bengals take crabtree, i'm sure al davis will be on the phone trying to give up a 3rd rounder for chad. 

if the browns take b.j. raji the DT, then i think the browns are gonna be lookin to trade shaun rogers.  both of those are possibilities because both chad and rogers want out of ohio.

davis is clearin cap space.  as it stands, they have 8 million in cap space, so he'd have to give up some guys for shaun rogers.  tommy kelly could play DE in the browns' 3-4 system... sands could play DT in the 3-4 until they let raji loose (if they take raji).  biggest thing is that 2010 could be an uncapped season.

me, i hope they ALL pass on crabtree and the raiders get him.  if they don't than i'd expect davis to sign amani toomer to add some vet stability to the wide outs.  a dream draft would have us getting crabtree and center- alex mack in the 2nd round.  they gotta do somethin to help jamarcus.  jamarcus improved a ton and didn't have a terrible season... especially when looking at his weapons and o-line.  i think he's figured out that he's big enough and strong enough to take hits and keep plays alive.  jamarcus needs to watch ALL the ben rothlisberger film he can.

i wouldn't be mad at us taking jeremy maclin either though.  dude is a gamebreaker, but he's a lot like johnnie lee higgins.  well he's a super- johnnie lee. lol  but crabtree is who i really want.  our o-line can't hold blocks long enough yet to go deep like maclin would want.  crabtree has the strongest/best hands they've seen.  larry fitzgerald said crabtree is a better route runner and more explosive than he was when he was crab's age.  gotta get him.  quick slants, hooks... quick routes, so our o-line's not forced to block for an extended period.  crabtree is basically a running back with cris carter-like hands and t.o.-like strength.  he'll break tackles and draw doubles so johnnie lee and chaz schillens can get deep.  zach miller would be open even more this season with crabtree out there.  crabtree is one those receivers thats gonna thrive with or without a great offensive line.
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2009, 01:50:37 pm »
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But still, think of all the bad contracts they still have to pay off, DeAngelo Hall, Javon Walker, Gabril Wilson, and even though I consider Asomugha the best corner around, no cornerback is worth $15 million a year, and Al Davis not only screwed up his own salary cap situation, but now the contract demands for other players too.
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2009, 02:10:11 pm »
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But still, think of all the bad contracts they still have to pay off, DeAngelo Hall, Javon Walker, Gabril Wilson, and even though I consider Asomugha the best corner around, no cornerback is worth $15 million a year, and Al Davis not only screwed up his own salary cap situation, but now the contract demands for other players too.


i thought this was draft-talk.  yeh, but with all that free agency-talk... they still have 8 mill in cap space after cutting those players and others.  javon walker is next to be cut.  al davis is not gonna shy away from paying for players that he deems worth it.  asomugha is indeed the best corner, so not only was he paid that way, but he was paid extra to convince him to stick around through the re-building and be the leader of his hometown team.  a 3-year commitment.  blaming al davis is a third of the battle.  you want to dish out blame... daniel snyder has been doing what al davis did last year for years.  whether al davis gave asomugha that contract or not... daniel snyder was gonna give albert haynesworth that Godly contract.

al davis also could care less for what other owners are going through salary cap/contract wise.  other than jerry jones, he doesn't have a " buddy " in ownership.  he's a real raider. lol

and he's not gonna cry about the contracts he gave those guys.  right now, al is deciding whether they want to share a stadium with the 49ers or if al wants to move the raiders back to los angeles.  los angeles got clearance for the new facility and al is said to be leaning that way.  los angeles + jamarcus russell + darren mcfadden + michael crabtree? = $$$ in al's pocket.
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2009, 08:50:36 pm »
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Okay, I figure there'll wind up being a lot of topics over the next couple of months about the NFL draft, so I'll go ahead and start the talk with a thread about what different teams need. I'm no expert on every team, but there's certain teams that I know enough about that I can talk about.

Chicago Bears - There's a lot that needs to be addressed. First off, the offensive line, which they wasted a pick on last year (turned out the guy had a real bad back), so it's doubtful if Williams will ever be anything. So an offensive tackle, guard, or center would be nice for the Bears to get. Another need is a pass rushing defensive end. Mark Anderson seems to have completely lost whatever he once had, and the Bears pass rush suffered greatly because of that. Next up would be a shut-down corner, or really a corner at all. Nathan Vasher also doesn't have it anymore, and really was almost a liability to have out there at times this year. Given he was hurt, but it's been a couple of years since he's really been much of anything. Peanut Tillman is still a good corner on the other side. Next up, a wide receiver. If there's good WRs available at their spot in the first round, I say that the Bears should go after them, since there's good talent at the WR spot in the first round. Only WR projected in the first round that I'm not a big fan of is Maclin, since when given real competition from a secondary he folded, but I don't think he'll even make it that far into the draft.

Detroit Lions - Anything and everything. Okay, well, not everything, but there's a lot that needs to be improved. It all starts with the base of the team, the offensive and defensive lines. If I'm the Lions, I pass on Stafford, there's just a little bit of a risk involved there, and the Lions need to be going for a sure thing, and Eugene Monroe is as close to a sure thing as a very good offensive lineman as I see in the draft. I'm just not positive that Stafford will be a very good NFL quarterback. Outside of that I can't think of a position that the Lions couldn't use help on in one way or another. I'd have to say that their best spot is at Wide Receiver, just because they have possibly the most physically gifted WR in the league right now.

San Francisco 49ers - It's gotta be the quarterback spot first and foremost for them. They have a good draft spot at #10 and no real good quarterback. Alex Smith looks like he was a bust for them, but they shouldn't be afraid to go after a good quarterback with their first pick. Sanchez or Freeman would seem to be the best options, I'd go with Sanchez if I was them, I think he has the ability to really be a very good quarterback, and I can't see the Niners passing on him if he falls to them. Freeman also looks good, but like with Stafford (who will surely be gone by then), I have my doubts. Other areas where the Niners need to improve is cornerback, offensive line (I'd say mainly tackle), and they could really use something like a pass rushing defensive end, linebacker, or even defensive tackle. I'm actually less sure than I was a month before the season ended with what they needed, only because it seems like Singletary with his wild pants-dropping schemes has actually gotten a lot more out of what they have.

Denver Broncos - When's the last time you've heard anyone say that the Broncos really need to develop a running game? ....Well? Seriously, answer me! Okay, fine  Roll Eyes . Anyway, as for skill positions, it's pretty obvious that if Beanie Wells falls to them, the Broncos go after him. When you have that good of a pick, unless it's a top of the class position player at that spot that you're drafting, or a position that's in dire need of help, you go with the skill guy. Beanie Wells, followed by Knowshon Moreno. LeSean McCoy is another good guy, but at that point I think the Broncos would rather either go to another skill position or go with a very good offensive lineman if there is one available. That brings me to my next need, offensive line, which is starting to look bad for the Broncos. I almost feel bad for guys like Nalen who were there when they had such a great line, and now have to sit around and watch a line that crumbles with every play. It really must be teh ghey and not be t*ts for him. Anyway, yeah, build up that line. Defense is a whole clusterf*ck of problems, so I'll just summarize and say pretty much everywhere has a need for assistance. Corner doesn't look to bad with that dynamic duo that the Broncos have (unless one of them is going to be leaving the team this offseason, I really have no idea), but health problems do worry me there. Like with everyone else, they should start with their problems by working on the base at the defensive line first and work their way up the pyramid from there.

Oakland Raiders - Wow, I almost called them the LA Raiders. Anyway, this is one of those cases like, with the Lions, you go after that desperate need. Besides, the Raiders don't really have a bad situation at all with their running back situation, and I still think that JaMarcus Russell will wind up being an excellent quarterback. Therefore, go ahead and go after the offensive lineman here, that's where they really need the most help at. They can't pass or run block right now, and with the #7 pick they should have no problem finding someone who really can, and even as a lineman can make a big difference in their team. Outside of that, defensive line can use a bit of tweaking, but the Raiders do have a very good defense already. The only way I see the Raiders not looking to build that offensive line in the draft's first round is if Michael Crabtree somehow falls to them, but I don't see that happening. If it does, then he could surely help the Raiders and they can build up that line in the second round and beyond. However, yeah, that offensive line is scary in a bad way due to how pathetic it is right now.

Minnesota Vikings - Quarterback!!! If Freeman's still available to them, then it'd be stupid of them to pass up on him in the first round. Outside of that, I could still see them being able to use a little more help up front on the offensive line (yeah, even though Peterson's already a world class back, he could be even better with better blocking), although the line's clearly not BAD. On defense their defensive line is great, but I could see a defensive back here or there being a help to the team.

Green Bay Packers - They could use an extra running back. In a 2 back league, Ryan Grant is good, but it's always good to have that second running back. Their defensive line is also going to need some help. I'd try to find a defensive end, first and foremost. If they could even have Brian Orakpo fall to them then that would make me really angry, but that's just because I'm a Bears fan, I do have my doubts though as to if he'll fall that far. On the corners they're going to start needing to think about getting some help there, and really as a whole in their defensive backfield. As for offense, they've got a killer group of receivers as well as a good running game (which I already addressed how it could get better), and the line is pretty good, but I feel like they could benefit from some sort of an addition at the tackle position.




Alright, if you think differently or if you want to throw any other teams in here or throw in a different perspective on a team that I've already gone over, then it's more than welcome. I'd like to see what other posters think on the issue of team needs in the NFL.
Just to bring life back to this topic I agree with everything here except Detroit
Detroit- Matthew Stafford will and should be the pick. The Lions haven't had a great Quarterback in 50 years since the curse Bobby Layne. Quarterback while there is always a risk there is more upside than any other position. Also Eugene Monroe and Jason Smith are good I don't know if there are future All-Pro Left Tackles there not as good as Joe Thomas and Jake Long were coming out of college in my opinion. Also I hear them taking Aaron Curry who is great but he is not look like a dominant enough player to pick him first.
Here are my team needs for my team

New York Jets- Well with Favre gone Quarterback is a question mark. I am not comfortable going into next season with Kellen Clemens and Brett Ratliff as our Quarterbacks. If Sanchez is there take him but I don't want Freeman. Also since Coles is probably gone local kid Kenny Britt or maybe Darius Heyward-Bey could be the pick hopefully Britt is available. Also a 5 technique Defense End like Tyson Jackson to put with Shaun Ellis would be nice too. Also we need help in the secondary hopefully Malcom Jenkins falls to us.



As for the Lions, I hear a lot of things Stafford's been saying that are very similar to what Joey Harrington was saying. I think the guy can be a great quarterback, but I just don't know if I'd draft him with my top pick when I have a team that seriously needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. There's no reason a mediocre quarterback shouldn't look good with a receiver like Calvin Johnson, but when you can't get any protection no quarterback looks good. I don't think that Stafford would be a horrible pick, but they really should make sure to improve on both lines as well.
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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2009, 05:23:14 pm »
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with houshmanzadeh gone to seattle and laverneus coles in cincy... michael crabtree will be a raider unless those teams trade their picks.  russell-mcfadden-crabtree Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2009, 10:32:14 am »
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Wow I am glad the Bengals signed Coles, he is a fine replacement for TJ, in fact I'd say he's a little bit better to be honest.
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