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« on: May 04, 2009, 01:23:58 pm »
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I really see the Bulls going after an inside scoring Power Forward. The question remains is that guy coming via the draft, Trade or even free agency? Thou B-Rad helped the team alot this year, he isn't really a low post scorer. And Noah is not really a scorer at all. I still feel he is better at the center slot with Miller subbing in. But we really only have one Power Forward in Tyrus Thomas. So having another that could really challenge Tyrus for that slot makes since. And gives the Bulls an out if Tyrus is a bust. So let's see? Who are the best Power forward coming in the draft? Which ones are low post scorers? What power forwards currently in the league can be had for the right deal?
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 01:38:15 pm »
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If the Wizards get Griffin, maybe Jamison will be available.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 01:48:34 pm »
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If the Wizards get Griffin, maybe Jamison will be available.

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 01:54:35 pm »
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There's no way to get a low post scoring PF in the draft that can help a playoff team as a rookie.

Here's what people forget about getting an impact player on a quality team in the draft. In how many college games did the top prospects ever play head up against a player of equal ability? I mean how often did Blake Griffin match up with a top rated big man? Not more than a couple of games but when he puts on an NBA uniform night in and night out he's going to face someone at least as good as he is or at least a match in size and strength with more experience. So when you see Stephen Curry score at will ask yourself how good was the defender he was up against? It wasn't Wade, Kobe or even Hinrich in 90% of the games but that's who he's going to face in the NBA.

But to who the Bulls can get. First I'd try for Bosh or Stoudemire just because maybe their teams are in the financial situation that they'll deal for what the Bulls can offer. On a more unlikely list would be Antwon Jameson, he doesn't make quite as much has a long deal and isn't supposed to be available because Washington wants to make a run with their healthy core group but I'd ask.

The second list would include less expensive FAs or trades, Brandon Bass, Jason Maxiell, Hakim Warrick, Ryan Gomes, Craig Smith, Al Thornton, Nick Collison. Channing Frye might be odd man out at Portland, Chris Wilcox is a FA, Paul Milsap is a restricted FA so he might cost a bit more if Utah wants him. I look at David Lee.

I have to look at Washington with a high lottery pick and too many big men for some kind of deal. Blatche is signed to a long deal, and they have Songaila who you wouldn't want but they also have Brendan Haywood and Etan Thomas coming off injuries with expiring contracts and Javale McGee who they didn't play much but he sure looked good against the Bulls. They might want to get something for one of those three.

The Bulls have tried going at it with two athletic, lean leapers and they get pushed around too darn much. They need at least one not as tall, doesn't sky wide body who can take a hit and get his shot off. Somebody who can dish out the hard foul when people drive the lane so they get the message that it's not going to be easy the next time.

Not on the answer list; Chris Kamen hurt too often, Zack Randolph, Samuel Dalembert isn't wanted in PHIL for the reasons you don't want him here, Tyson Chandler too much money for too little skills.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2009, 01:56:26 pm »
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Yah, Don't see Jamison as an inside player. Not what the Bulls need. I am finding in hard to dis-count the Bulls drafting Blair if he is on the Board at 16th, and Hansbourgh if he is on the Board at 25th. Not many current players I can think of the would fit the Bulls need. They need a low post scorer not a high post scorer. That's what Miller is all ready.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2009, 02:37:37 pm »
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once again, really the only low post scorer the Bulls have a chance in getting is Patrick Patterson.  He is only 6'8 but players like Brandon Bass and Paul Milsap are having great success at the same height.  He put up the numbers he did with ZERO help from his teammates.  I have watched film on the guy and he is constantly double teamed in the post.  So hopefully the Bulls can take him and finally get something that plays offense on the block.
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2009, 03:36:45 pm »
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I see them having a shot at a few guys: Blair, Patterson, Gani Lawal, Brackins?

I like Blair myself. Look what Big Baby did in the series. Blair is as good if not better then Davis. And his style could get Tyrus to play under the rim more.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2009, 04:27:04 pm »
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i think monroe is staying in college last i heard...

the only guy in the draft that interests me is mullens.  we've got ty and noah, and one of them needs to go.  they are both power forwards, the longer we keep masquerading noah as a center the worse off we're going to be.  dude would be a nice power forward if we could find a center worth a ***, and the only one i see is mullens.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2009, 04:39:06 pm »
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As far as post scoring 4's, I see the options like this:

In a trade: Chris Bosh, Amar'e Stoudemire
Draft: DeJuan Blair, Patrick Patterson, Tyler Hansbrough (Craig Brackins and Greg Monroe are both going staying in school.)
FA: Carlos Boozer, Brandon Bass, Chris Wilcox, Paul Millsap (restricted) (Jason Maxiell signed an extension prior to this season.)

Players like Gani Lawal, Earl Clark, David Lee, Channing Frye could be available to us, but I wouldn't consider them "post scorers".
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2009, 05:40:05 pm »
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Bosh doesn't really classify as a low-post scorer. He has maybe 1 back-to-the basket move.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2009, 05:43:52 pm »
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Bosh doesn't really classify as a low-post scorer. He has maybe 1 back-to-the basket move.

The Bulls don't necessarily need a "post presence"-type player.  They just need a guy who can get easy baskets around the rim on a consistent basis.
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2009, 05:57:47 pm »
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I like BJ Mullens potential also. I would also like Pyzbilla if we could get him via trade. I think the one thing the playoffs taught us is that Tyrus Thomas has alot to do before he secures a spot long term with this team. Thou I still see the organization holding on to him until the last minute. And by then his stock will be zero.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2009, 06:02:00 pm »
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Bosh doesn't really classify as a low-post scorer. He has maybe 1 back-to-the basket move.

The Bulls don't necessarily need a "post presence"-type player.  They just need a guy who can get easy baskets around the rim on a consistent basis.

Fair enough. I do think Bosh would form an absolutely deadly pick-and-roll partner with Rose, as his mid-range jumper is among the most effective in the league.
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2009, 07:35:34 pm »
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#1 option- Gm you already know what im going to say lol But go after Bosh or STAT. Suns are having financial troubles and the Raptors might lose Bosh. Bosh in the pick and roll would be fantastic. He will make opposing bigs foul and he will actaully score some easy buckets for the Bulls. Put Noah next to him and you got something going for you. Rose would be averaging double digit assist numbers with him here.

Draft- Mullens (All the tools you want in a bigman...If you cant coach this guy to be good..you just cant coach)
Patrick Patterson-might not be bad (he is just undersized thats why he is mid 1st round, he can play though)
Jarvis Varnado-This guy could be your new Tyrus Thomas...Has been compared to Marcus Camby and Theo Ratliff, all he does is play defense.

Personally i think Big Baby is a lot better then Blair and this is why...Big Baby has always been a scorer...in college he was averaging about 18ppg i think. Blair just doesnt have the jumper that Big Baby has. They both can rebound though, ill give them that. Tyrus Thomas needs to be traded...it takes me like a month of working out and I already see my body getting bigger and stronger...these guys just arnt working out! They are soft and they dont hit the weights. Tyrus kills scrubs but when you get to the Playoffs you see what happens...you face good post players and he is no where to be seen. TRADE HIM NOW BEFORE NO ONE WANTS HIM!!!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2009, 10:02:13 pm »
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Bosh doesn't really classify as a low-post scorer. He has maybe 1 back-to-the basket move.

The Bulls don't necessarily need a "post presence"-type player.  They just need a guy who can get easy baskets around the rim on a consistent basis.

Fair enough. I do think Bosh would form an absolutely deadly pick-and-roll partner with Rose, as his mid-range jumper is among the most effective in the league.

I agree with you here. If the Bulls don't involve Miller in any trade involving Bosh (which I don't see why they would since it'd almost have to be a straight up trade), then you could have a couple of very good high post options for Rose right there.
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