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« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2009, 05:23:37 pm »
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Front Court Player -or- BIG ? It's just easier to write that way.
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2009, 06:46:31 pm »
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In my opinion if you get Bosh and a guy thats 6'10,6'11,7'0 that weighs 270 i think you should be fine. KG and Perkins for example. Mullens is a legit 7'0 260....in a couple years he should be able to at least get you 10ppg 7-8reb like Perkins does. Bosh and Mullens are the PF/C combination i want to have.
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« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2009, 07:27:26 pm »
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Mullins is trash, he will never be anything special.
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« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2009, 08:50:47 pm »
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He's going to eventually be a good center both on the offensive and defensive end, better than any option we have right now at center (taking into account Miller's age).
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« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2009, 09:03:12 pm »
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Mullins is trash, he will never be anything special.

There's maybe 10 special players in the NBA. I guess this should be called the TBA
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« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2009, 01:07:56 am »
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What about Yao?  He is a free agent in 2010, hes a TRUE low post scorer and the TRUE center we need.  Thoughts?
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« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2009, 01:31:47 am »
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Front Court Player -or- BIG ? It's just easier to write that way.

Except for the fact that the frontcourt positions are so drastically different.  Consider that at only 1" and 10 lbs. advantage, Patrick Ewing would consistently overwhelm Horace Grant if Horace tried to guard him.  So... you're lumping two positions into one term where the height and weight variance can be 6-9" and 70 lbs.Huh 

We don't need a PF.  If we do decide to get one, Noah or Thomas has to go back in the deal.  We do need a low post scorer, even if it's just a guy like size who can get you some buckets like Perkins.  We do need a big center.  We don't need a low post scoring guy who is 6'10" 220 and we don't need a "big" who could just as easily be 6'10" 220 as 7'1" 275.

Mullens is the logical option in the draft.  Because that way, if you can dump Deng's salary into an Amare trade, you do it, and Mullens and Miller give you the size to "not lose" a series because someone has Bynum and Gasol, or Perkins and Davis... 
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« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2009, 01:35:17 am »
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Mullins is trash, he will never be anything special.

Neither will Perkins, but guess what??  Put Noah on the Celtics last year and they don't win.  Gasol would have too much of a mismatch down low. 

With Mullens, you aren't making center the focal point of your team, you're simply saying "hey, maybe we don't have Howard, but if you do, that doesn't mean you're just going to back down all night and make it easy."  Or... if you face Boston and they say "hey, Perkins isn't that good, but he's 280, so he'll beat you up down low" you have an option that is also 280... 

The trend I see is toward center becoming a lot like offensive line in the 80s.... the bigger the better.  I mean, like I said earlier, you have to have some quickness and some skill, but if you're 7' 275, do you have to be much better than Mullens?  To help a team fill the center position ADEQUATELY?  No....
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« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2009, 01:39:08 am »
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What about Yao?  He is a free agent in 2010, hes a TRUE low post scorer and the TRUE center we need.  Thoughts?

Great addition.  He CAN become a free agent in 2010, and he's always wanted a city with a high asian population.  Chicago has at least a decent amount of asians.  His alternatives are GSW, LAC and WAS.  I could easily see Yao signing with the Bulls if we didn't get Wade.  All the more reason not to do something crazy before summer 2010. 

It's like poker right now.  There's just too many chips out there to fold (spend any money this summer) before next summer comes up...
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« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2009, 08:31:40 am »
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Chinese culture is very loyal i dont see Yoa going anywhere personally. It doesnt matter if Mullens turns out to be great or not...but if he can just bang around with the big guys in the league then he is perfect. I think some very realistic numbers for Mullens are about 10ppg and 7-8rebs...much like Perkins puts up. The thing about Mullens is that the guy is a freak athlete...he can run the floor and he can leap. So not only is he 7ft 260...but the guy is a athlete too.
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« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2009, 09:46:45 am »
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This BJ Mullins talk is complete ridiculous.  Did any of you watch his games this year? He is NOT a banger down low like some people are saying he is. He was over hyped and soft, there was no banging in his game this year, he is all finesse. I will be so angry with Bulls management take this fool. He didn't even have good production. I would like to get a proven guy and not some project that could be a disastrous bust.
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« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2009, 10:42:20 am »
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This BJ Mullins talk is complete ridiculous.  Did any of you watch his games this year? He is NOT a banger down low like some people are saying he is. He was over hyped and soft, there was no banging in his game this year, he is all finesse. I will be so angry with Bulls management take this fool. He didn't even have good production. I would like to get a proven guy and not some project that could be a disastrous bust.

He's not a banger in the Big Ten, but the Big Ten is much more physical than the NBA in terms of style of play anyway.  80% of the players lack the physical talent to sniff the NBA and it's just guys like Krabbendorf or whoever that guy is beating people up...  Mullens is the PROTOTYPICAL player that I expect to actually look better in the NBA than he does in the Big Ten.  The PROTOTYPICAL player.

The fact is, it's like an NFL team needing a left tackle and drafting one.  Your boy Paxson didn't think that centers had any value, so he traded two away, at least one of whom would be very valuable for us right now.  So now, it's really the only hole we have.  I look at it like this... does Thomas need to improve?  Sure... does Noah need some polish at the four?  Sure.  But as long as Noah is at the 4 and Thomas the 3.. are they OKAY as matchups in a late playoff series?  Yep.  Are we okay late in the playoffs v. Orlando or Cleveland next year with Joakim Noah starting at CENTER?  NO....

Mullens is a lot like Eddy Curry, but he'll get 8 RPG from the start if he plays 30 minutes, and he won't take 5 years just to have a good year.  He won't play 30 minutes as a rookie, more like 18, but in that 18, I expect 5 RPG and 8 PPG on 55%+ FG.  And that will pace us, keep us fresh and give us size. 

Go back and watch the tape.... watch the Bulls shoot the ball and when Noah goes to position for the rebound, watch Perkins attach to his long body, move him about 8 feet in a split second and then Pierce gets an easy rebound....

Whether he's a banger or not, you're not just going to move 275 lbs. like that...
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« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2009, 10:47:52 am »
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Thabeet, anyone? I think It'd be worth looking into moving up to get him, possibly by using Hinrich, Salmons, or Deng, all of whom are (partially) expendable. Although his hands aren't the softest and he's a bit raw offensively, he's a true center and intimidator.
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« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2009, 11:42:52 am »
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bring Chandler back? then try to get bosh in 2010...could run like crazy and rebound.
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« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2009, 11:48:48 am »
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Thabeet is not much of an inside scorer, so trading up to him wouldn't really solve the need for inside scoring.
True, he could end up being a solid center, but he could very be another Tyson Chandler.
Unless a player in the draft has Al Jefferson-like offensive skills, the only way they can solve this is through trade or free agency.
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