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« Reply #105 on: June 22, 2009, 08:41:59 pm »
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BTeam thats pretty funny lol But i do see it possibly happening lol

Best case scenerio for both guys....Mullens and Rose would be better then Blair and Rose imo. Mainly because Mullens can finish above the rim and he has excellent athleticism. Both Blair and Mullens have good hands so Rose getting them the ball wouldnt be a problem for either 1 of them. Finishing the play is something to look at too, Mullens will be at the rim while Blair is still under the rim. With a team like the Bulls who like to run and gun with a bunch of athletes on this team....Mullens fit the bill imo.
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« Reply #106 on: June 22, 2009, 08:54:56 pm »
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how anyone figures rose/blair is a better combination than rose/mullens is beyond me...blair's post game is highly overrated, as i've said before he's likely a poor man's maxiell in a couple of years.  if you watched the games last year, you watched rose get the ball to noah/ty right under the basket all the time, the problem is those guys can't finish those plays.  mullens can, that's a big reason why i expect him to be a great fit next to rose, not to mention his ability to knock down the open 10-15 ft jumper and all the tools he needs to be effective in the post 1on1.
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« Reply #107 on: June 22, 2009, 09:18:23 pm »
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That's just like saying Billups and Maxiell over Billups and Rasheed Wallace. When do I start to laugh? How many players that were successful in college went on to be successful in the NBA. You're dealing with more coarse scouting staffs and you're not going to be enabled doing what you did in college. Yeah, I know, Blair just power the ball up but has no real skills. Try that against Tyrus Thomas and see what happens. You can compare him to Glen Davis all you want. Davis can play SF but Blair can't. His handles aren't like Davis and his body isn't physically like Davis neither. Davis has skills out to the perimeter and Blair doesn't. Once again, it's all about skills in the NBA. If you don't have that, essentially, you will be limited. BJ Mullens is my dude because he's interested in refining his skills and not put wear and tear on his body. How many hybrid undersized PF have you seen that plays a big role on a club? Every team that has won a championship has matchup nightmares. You need that presence down low and BJ 7'0'' body and his finesse approach offers a component we don't have. We have a Blair on the team; Noah and Brad Miller plays that role.   
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« Reply #108 on: June 22, 2009, 10:39:38 pm »
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That's just like saying Billups and Maxiell over Billups and Rasheed Wallace. When do I start to laugh? How many players that were successful in college went on to be successful in the NBA. You're dealing with more coarse scouting staffs and you're not going to be enabled doing what you did in college. Yeah, I know, Blair just power the ball up but has no real skills. Try that against Tyrus Thomas and see what happens. You can compare him to Glen Davis all you want. Davis can play SF but Blair can't. His handles aren't like Davis and his body isn't physically like Davis neither. Davis has skills out to the perimeter and Blair doesn't. Once again, it's all about skills in the NBA. If you don't have that, essentially, you will be limited. BJ Mullens is my dude because he's interested in refining his skills and not put wear and tear on his body. How many hybrid undersized PF have you seen that plays a big role on a club? Every team that has won a championship has matchup nightmares. You need that presence down low and BJ 7'0'' body and his finesse approach offers a component we don't have. We have a Blair on the team; Noah and Brad Miller plays that role.



I don’t know where to start on that bit of pontificating you just posted but I guess I will start by saying I would also take Mullens over Blair but your premises are all wrong…..GLEN DAVIS CAN NOT PLAY SF….I don’t wish to avidly patronize you but come on.  Check 82 games he never played a min at SF nor could he, in fact he has played more time at C than PF.  

Have you forgotten what Davis was like when he came into the league? Just like Blair, Davis was a poor ball handler and didn’t have must of a jump shoot and was over weight.  The Davis example just predicates the idea that Blair could develop those skills.

Much of the principle of your argument for Mullens is that he can improve on his flaws, because we all know he has many of them, but Blair can not improve.

Blair will have a role in the NBA as a rebounder I think his ceiling is Paul Millsap, but even if he doesn’t reach that he still can fill a Brandon Bass/Udonis Haslem.  Teams always have roles for tough guys who can rebound.      


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« Reply #109 on: June 22, 2009, 10:41:32 pm »
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Fixed.

That's just like saying Billups and Maxiell over Billups and Rasheed Wallace. When do I start to laugh? How many players that were successful in college went on to be successful in the NBA. You're dealing with more coarse scouting staffs and you're not going to be enabled doing what you did in college. Yeah, I know, Blair just power the ball up but has no real skills. Try that against Tyrus Thomas and see what happens. You can compare him to Glen Davis all you want. Davis can play SF but Blair can't. His handles aren't like Davis and his body isn't physically like Davis neither. Davis has skills out to the perimeter and Blair doesn't. Once again, it's all about skills in the NBA. If you don't have that, essentially, you will be limited. BJ Mullens is my dude because he's interested in refining his skills and not put wear and tear on his body. How many hybrid undersized PF have you seen that plays a big role on a club? Every team that has won a championship has matchup nightmares. You need that presence down low and BJ 7'0'' body and his finesse approach offers a component we don't have. We have a Blair on the team; Noah and Brad Miller plays that role.   



I don’t know where to start on that bit of pontificating you just posted but I guess I will start by saying I would also take Mullens over Blair but your premises are all wrong…..GLEN DAVIS CAN NOT PLAY SF….I don’t wish to avidly patronize you but come on.  Check 82 games he never played a min at SF nor could he, in fact he has played more time at C than PF. 

Have you forgotten what Davis was like when he came into the league? Just like Blair, Davis was a poor ball handler and didn’t have must of a jump shoot and was over weight.  The Davis example just predicates the idea that Blair could develop those skills.

Much of the principle of your argument for Mullens is that he can improve on his flaws, because we all know he has many of them, but Blair can not improve.

Blair will have a role in the NBA as a rebounder I think his ceiling is Paul Millsap, but even if he doesn’t reach that he still can fill a Brandon Bass/Udonis Haslem.  Teams always have roles for tough guys who can rebound.     


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« Reply #110 on: June 22, 2009, 11:31:34 pm »
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at 16, i want absolutely no part of blair or mullens.  We don't need a 6'6" PF who with bad knees and can't hit a jumper.  We also don't need a 7'0" project center when Noah has finally looked good. 

Also, in town on ESPN 1000 and WSCR 670 there have been talks of Sam Young.  Please god do not take him.  He is 24 years old already and crapped out during crunch time in march madness. 

Ideally, I'd like to get some combination of Hansbrough and Toney Douglas or something similar.  Solid role players who will have long NBA careers. 

Hopefully Gar and his gang don't screw this up
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« Reply #111 on: June 22, 2009, 11:51:40 pm »
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The reason Big Baby has had success is because he has a jumper....he has always had a jumper, all the way back to LSU he had a j. He is a offensive minded player....but many people dont know that because coming to the Celtics he didnt need to play that role...he needed to just rebound and play some d, score easy buckets when they were there for him. I still dont understand the Milsap Blair comparisons....i dont see anything similiar in those 2 besides that they can both rebound. Milsap also has a jumper unlike Blair. He is a lot leaner and agile then Blair also. Many times watching Pittsburgh this year the announcers pointed out Blair getting tired on the court, losing his man, committing stupid fouls because he just couldnt keep up with them. I dont mind Blair, i have said this before, but he is a role player nothing more. On the other hand, if you pick Mullens, he could possibly be your starter and if he doesnt reach that potential you at least have a super athletic backup center that can play in your rotation.

Sam Young isnt bad, i would take him at 26...another guy i think the Bulls like is DaJuan Summers, Ive read that he has been playing great in his workouts. The G'Town system hurt his stock. Last year he was considered a top 14 player. I would love to just trade away the 26th pick personally. I rather have a early 2nd rounder so you wont have to pay him for 3 years.
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« Reply #112 on: June 23, 2009, 12:12:40 am »
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MORE RUMORS!!!!!!!

Detroit Slinging The Promises?: Don't get too caught up in the Detroit Piston promises stories – this weekend reports surfaced that the Detroit Pistons had promised B.J. Mullens their draft pick if he was on the board at #15. The problem with that story is they also allegedly promised that pick to Earl Clark and as many as three other players. The problem in these "promise" stories is that teams rarely are going to commit to a player, especially late in the draft, mainly because the draft is fluid. You never know who is gonna take a tumble down the draft board, and most teams will simply say "We really like you at #15" or "We'd strongly consider you at #15" – some would say "You could be our guy at #15" – but rarely is it ever "We'll take you if your there at #15." Don't get caught up with promises, because it rarely happens.

Chicago and New Jersey?: We have been talking for a few weeks about the possibility of Tyler Hansbrough and the New Jersey Nets getting together on draft night. It seemed like a long shot that Tyler goes #11, and word that the Nets and Bulls are talking swap now makes a lot of things make sense. The word is that New Jersey is considering a deal that would have them moving the #11 to Chicago in exchange for the #16 and the #26 – that gives the New Jersey the #16 to grab Omri Casspi and the #26 to grab Tyler Hansbrough. The wrinkle here is the odds Tyler is still on the board at #26 seems remote, and #16 might be how high New Jersey would have to take Casspi before San Antonio gets in the mix. Sacramento could grab him at #23 if they keep the pick so New Jersey would have to weigh their options if they want both, but it does seem New Jersey may be getting a two for one, which explains why they have requested workouts with guys on the lower end of the draft.
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