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« on: July 07, 2006, 06:57:20 pm »
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Why do the bulls want P.J. Brown when they could get Chris Wilcox of the Sonics.  A three team trade needs to go down.  The Bulls will get Wilcox and J.R. Smith of the Hornets, New Orleans/Oklahoma City would get Tyson Chandler (good riddance) and the Sonics get P.J. Brown and draft picks.  I think it's win win for all involved.
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2006, 07:40:49 pm »
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Why do the bulls want P.J. Brown when they could get Chris Wilcox of the Sonics.  A three team trade needs to go down.  The Bulls will get Wilcox and J.R. Smith of the Hornets, New Orleans/Oklahoma City would get Tyson Chandler (good riddance) and the Sonics get P.J. Brown and draft picks.  I think it's win win for all involved.


Well, that's not going down obviously as Tyson has already been dealt to NO. From what I read, Pax is waiting for the Sonics to give up on signing Wilcox and working on a sign/trade involving newly acquired JR Smith, Malik Allen and Viktor Khryapa.

Check the article : http://www.suntimes.com/output/bulls/cst-spt-bull07.html

Hard to say if Wilcox was just playing well last year since he was in a contract year but it would be worth the risk if the deal was for those 3 players and the money was right.

Probably just another rumor that will never come to fruition but it's fun to speculate.  Pax has one more deal under his sleeve....
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2006, 02:18:04 am »
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Apparently the Bulls are interested in Wilcox, which I think would put them at #2 in the East. If they can't get him, I'm sure they'll re-sign Songaila, who is a very talented scorer and great all around player to come off the bench.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2006, 07:45:55 am »
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Conflicting stories on Wilcox today from the Trib and Sun-Times.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-060707bulls,1,2574595.story?coll=cs-bulls-headlines

http://www.suntimes.com/output/bulls/cst-spt-bull08.html


The Trib piece looks more credible/updated :

No way on Wilcox

A source close to the Bulls disputed published reports that the Bulls are interested in acquiring Seattle restricted free agent Chris Wilcox. The source said the Bulls have no interest in the 6-10 power forward.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2006, 04:18:01 pm »
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Why do the bulls want P.J. Brown when they could get Chris Wilcox of the Sonics.  A three team trade needs to go down.  The Bulls will get Wilcox and J.R. Smith of the Hornets, New Orleans/Oklahoma City would get Tyson Chandler (good riddance) and the Sonics get P.J. Brown and draft picks.  I think it's win win for all involved.
What's in it for Seattle? Why make it easy for a player that you would like to resign to go to another and get nothing in return. (No disrespect to P.J. but a. the Sonics don't need an expiring contract and b. the reason that everyone is interested in Wilcox is based in no small part on his youth and athleticism.) ......... :?:  So the only draft pick of interest to the Sonics would be the number one pick next year, if the Knicks tank and the pick wins the lottery. .... :oops:
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2006, 06:07:22 pm »
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Yeah, cuz then Seattle could draft a 4th big man in Oden, and have NOT ONE, NOT TWO, NOT THREE, BUT FOUR CENTERS. Three of which will be terrible for years to come, I imagine...
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2006, 06:13:15 pm »
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Yeah, cuz then Seattle could draft a 4th big man in Oden, and have NOT ONE, NOT TWO, NOT THREE, BUT FOUR CENTERS. Three of which will be terrible for years to come, I imagine...


I think the Wilcox deal is dead at this point so it's pointless to continue the conversation but I'd just like to point out that no team in their right mind (except Isiah) would trade away a shot at drafting Oden.  That option the Bulls have to swap #1 picks with the Knicks is priceless at this point.  Besides Oden, it's a good time to have a lottery pick next year.
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2006, 04:49:31 pm »
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Yeah, cuz then Seattle could draft a 4th big man in Oden, and have NOT ONE, NOT TWO, NOT THREE, BUT FOUR CENTERS. Three of which will be terrible for years to come, I imagine...


I think the Wilcox deal is dead at this point so it's pointless to continue the conversation but I'd just like to point out that no team in their right mind (except Isiah) would trade away a shot at drafting Oden.  That option the Bulls have to swap #1 picks with the Knicks is priceless at this point.  Besides Oden, it's a good time to have a lottery pick next year.
I wouldn't count on the Bulls having the number one pick so easily next draft. I'm not saying the Knicks will be a playoff team, but they will show marked improvement this season. With no LB they will play to their strengths and win at least 15 more games. Thereby reducing the odds that they would win the lottery. Regardless the Bulls will still end up swapping the pick barring a miracle season in NYC.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2006, 06:48:58 pm »
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Yeah, cuz then Seattle could draft a 4th big man in Oden, and have NOT ONE, NOT TWO, NOT THREE, BUT FOUR CENTERS. Three of which will be terrible for years to come, I imagine...


I think the Wilcox deal is dead at this point so it's pointless to continue the conversation but I'd just like to point out that no team in their right mind (except Isiah) would trade away a shot at drafting Oden.  That option the Bulls have to swap #1 picks with the Knicks is priceless at this point.  Besides Oden, it's a good time to have a lottery pick next year.
I wouldn't count on the Bulls having the number one pick so easily next draft. I'm not saying the Knicks will be a playoff team but they will show marked improvement this season. With no LB they will play to their strengths and win at least 15 more games. Thereby reducing the odds that they would win the lottery. Regardless the Bulls will still end up swapping the pick barring a miracle season in NYC.



Even so...most of the teams that improved this off season are in the East....They knicks havnt improved at all personel wise.  They will be better this year thats for sure ...but they have alot harder compeition then last year also.  There is still no way the Knicks make the playoffs.

East Teams that improved so far
Bulls
Bucks
Raptors
Celtics
Magic
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2006, 07:31:11 pm »
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the rockets will improve by sheer nature of "there's no way we can be that bad again."

the hornets will improve because chris paul is a year older.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2006, 08:59:09 pm »
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If Van Gundy keeps focusing on Defense rather than running break, I really don't see the Rockets improving. With T-mac and Skip-To-my-Lou (Alston) on the team, it should be a running tempo. If they had kept Stomile Swift, all the more reason they should have ran. Even with Battier i think they should run a bit more. Keep Yao back so he can catch his breath and play the post later in the game.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2006, 09:37:44 am »
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Wilcox will not help you my man, this kid only plays facing to the basket and will not fit into Chicago's offense.

PJ got some of the more solid post moves and can even teach Tyrus Thomas a thing or two on this lost art.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2006, 01:49:42 pm »
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They dont have money to sign him since the signed Ben Wallace. Who would they trade to get him. Oh yeah Paxson made a mistake when he released Tim Thomas!!!
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2006, 02:23:22 pm »
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They dont have money to sign him since the signed Ben Wallace. Who would they trade to get him. Oh yeah Paxson made a mistake when he released Tim Thomas!!!


Thomas was released after the trade deadline. He would have been a free agent this year and would be a non-factor in any trade the Bulls could make.  I'm sure Pax tried to trade him last year, but couldn't make a deal with anyone.

The Bulls were better off without him anyway!  He wouldn't practice, wouldn't hustle, wouldn't play defense, and had no perception of team play.  Good riddance!
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