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« on: September 01, 2010, 12:05:21 pm »

Sacramento Kings trade: Dalembert, Cousins, Udrih, Greene & 1st rd pick
receives: Smith, Crawford, Zaza, Nocioni, Smith & Holiday


Atlanta Hawks trade: Smith, Crawford, Zaza & Bibby
receives: Iggy, Dalembert & Udrih


Philadelphia 76ers trade: Iggy, Nocioni, Holiday & Smith
receives: Bibby, Cousins, Greene & 1st rd pick



Sacramento Kings

PG - Evans/Holiday/Jeter
SG - Crawford/Garcia/Wright
SF - Smith/Nocioni/Casspi
PF - Landry/Smith/Jackson
C - Thompson/Zaza/Whiteside


Atlanta Hawks

PG - Udrih/Teague/Sy
SG - Johnson/Evans/Crawford
SF - Iguodala/Williams
PF - Horford/Powell
C - Dalembert/Thomas/Collins


Philadelphia 76ers

PG - Williams/Bibby
SG - Turner/Green/Meeks
SF - Young/Greene/Kapono
PF - Speights/Brand
C - Cousins/Hawes/Battie
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 12:48:36 pm »

Philly: Why?

Sacramento: Why?

Atlanta: Why?
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 01:03:01 pm »

Why does Sactown trade from Nocioni back?
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2010, 12:14:27 pm »

i think phily would like it because of that first round pick but the other teams wouldn do it
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2010, 06:00:43 pm »

i think phily would like it because of that first round pick but the other teams wouldn do it

You know, you're right.  I overlooked that they get Cousins.  Philly cuts salary, gets a young prospect to replace Holiday, and gets a draft pick.

The other two teams easily say no.
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2010, 02:12:44 am »

Philly: Why?

Sacramento: Why?

Atlanta: Why?


Philly isn't going anywhere anytime soon, this trade gives them a plan fo the future.. it cuts as much costs as much money as it can right now and they start rebuilding; the average age of Philly's core would be 22 (Williams, Turner, Young, Speights, Cousins, Hawes, Greene & Meeks) they could also keep Bibby for the mle if they need him, then in 2012 they can use Brand's 18 mill expiring contract as trade bait to become even better


2012 Philadelphia 76ers

PG - Williams/Bibby?
SG - Turner/Meeks
SF - Young/Greene
PF - Speights/Brand (18mill exp contract trade bait)
C - Cousins/Hawes



Sacramento does it because they need a Small Forward and Josh Smith would be sick next to Evans. Evans could split time between the point and shooting guard and Holiday could play 25-30 mins at the point so they wouldn't really need Udrih..They still have Thompson who is a young developing center and Zaza is a great backup who can log up to 20mpg..and Maxiell can play the Center position if need be. Greene wouldn't find the time to play behind Smith & Casspi..i guess what they could do would be to trade Crawford & Nocioni for Gordon & Maxiell


Sacramento Kings

PG - Evans/Holiday/Jeter
SG - Gordon/Garcia/Wright
SF - Smith/Casspi/McGrady
PF - Landry/Maxiell/Smith
C - Thompson/Zaza/Maxiell


Detroit

PG - Stuckey/Bynum
SG - Hamilton/Crawford/White
SF - Prince/Nocioni/Daye
PF - Jerebko/Villanueva/Wilcox
C - Monroe/Wallace/Whiteside





Atlanta would do this because they need a legit Center seeing that Horford is a PF so they get Dalembert who is a nice defensive-minded one..sure he may be a tad overpaid but his contract is up so believe he'll try to get resigned. Iggy & Johnson can switch between the 2 and 3 and they are both capable defenders. they lose Bbby get back a younger point who can also hit the three in Udrih..They would have to get Etan Thomas to backup Dalembert and find a free-agent/d-league PF player to backup Horford (I would personally try to contact Josh Boone or Ike Diogu)


Atlanta Hawks

PG - Udrih/Teague/Sy
SG - Johnson/Evans/Crawford
SF - Iguodala/Williams
PF - Horford/Powell
C - Dalembert/Thomas/Collins
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2010, 02:21:16 am »

josh smith IS NOT A SF  he has no range can not dribble drive has lousy foot work on the perimeter. the guy is a 4 he plays good man to man d and excellent help defense is roughly 6'9" . if this guy is your starting 3 your team is in a bad situation.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2010, 01:47:26 pm »

josh smith IS NOT A SF  he has no range can not dribble drive has lousy foot work on the perimeter. the guy is a 4 he plays good man to man d and excellent help defense is roughly 6'9" . if this guy is your starting 3 your team is in a bad situation.

Josh Smith is a combo-forward meaning he can play both spots..he doesn't need range or need to dribble drive..think Shawn Marion in his prime and then some, he'll be scoring alley-oops left and right with Evans and Holiday making plays...and they would have their perimeter shooter in Ben Gordon

Smith played the 3 when he first came into the nba and didn't really have much trouble with it, not to mention Casspi, Garcia, Wright & McGrady are all able to play the 3...

Landry & Maxiell are both undersized for the 4, they have the same body type but Landry is more offensive and Maxiell is defensive.but they can both defend well for their size bc of their wingspans & strength

Thompson and Zaza would play physically and gobble down boards/hold down their man defensively and they would be open inside if teams try to double up Evans-Holiday
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2010, 04:01:08 pm »

josh smith IS NOT A SF  he has no range can not dribble drive has lousy foot work on the perimeter. the guy is a 4 he plays good man to man d and excellent help defense is roughly 6'9" . if this guy is your starting 3 your team is in a bad situation.

Josh Smith is a combo-forward meaning he can play both spots..he doesn't need range or need to dribble drive..think Shawn Marion in his prime and then some, he'll be scoring alley-oops left and right with Evans and Holiday making plays...and they would have their perimeter shooter in Ben Gordon

Smith played the 3 when he first came into the nba and didn't really have much trouble with it, not to mention Casspi, Garcia, Wright & McGrady are all able to play the 3...

Landry & Maxiell are both undersized for the 4, they have the same body type but Landry is more offensive and Maxiell is defensive.but they can both defend well for their size bc of their wingspans & strength

Thompson and Zaza would play physically and gobble down boards/hold down their man defensively and they would be open inside if teams try to double up Evans-Holiday

Smith has no speed advantage at SF, and he has no post game.  If you remember, Marion's most successful years were playing at PF.  Ever since be stopped playing PF, I'm Miami, Toronto, and Dallas, his game has seriously gone downhill.

Evans squeezes the ball too much, he needs a guard that can shoot the ball to play with Evans.  Holiday has a below average jumper, and if you played Smith at SF, teams would just pack the paint ALL DAY, because you have no three-point shooting.

Sacramento doesn't need a second future PG, they need a center, because Thompson is not a center.  Like Horford, he is a PF who has to play center.  Sacramento would much rather hold onto the legitimate center that they just drafted and use Thompson as the first big off the bench.
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2010, 10:13:06 am »

Why would Sacramento give up a true center prospect with tons of potential and a 6th man of the year in the making (which really is what they need) for Josh Smith and scrubs with bad contracts?
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