Derrick Rose and the Free Throw Attempts Tragedy

[Jason Rubin]

Who cares, it was 19 years ago, Bulls win, everyones happy. A camera might let you in on a play, but it doesn't make Jordan finals MVP.

Green you have no proof that other teams were doing it, the Bulls got caught. Had this been the Lakers doing it, you would be one of the first people to jump in and say "well the Lakers got caught, and they are a bunch of cheaters, I bet no one else does it at all, especially not the Bulls, I would know, I'm connected"

Okay, I think you've misunderstood, as well.  I'm of the belief that all teams in professional sports do this.  And frankly, I'd be surprised if they don't considering how much money is at stake for them.  I'm not saying it's right, I just think it happens on a regular basis.

And you misunderstood where I understood that and said you have 0 proof of this. Only one team has been caught of this, the Pats, thats it.

If only one team has been caught then why are you claiming the Bulls were caught?  Did you re-watch the same clip that sulingman did?

[Stinkinbishop]

naww i dont remember that but i was just a kid at the time lol How does a camera or spy actually help nba games though? By the time the finals come around, you have 82 games of footage to look at lol What else did they say about it sulingman?

Well I only saw games 3 and 5, Mike was referencing either an earlier mention or something in a pregame show, so he didn't get into any detail. Mike also talked about how the Bulls employed a complicated half court offense, but they never called it triangle. They also said that the Lakers offense involved players having their spots on the floor, so that when Magic got double teamed, he knew where to pass it, but Bulls were in those spots. Yes there were 82 games of footage, but the Lakers were missing starters, so the personnel and minutes in the finals was different.

Phil Jackson doesn't mention anything in his book 'Sacred Hoops' but he does talk about their plan to stop Magic. Simply double him as soon as he was given the ball, even under his own basket.
I still hate the fact that it worked!

[ballers101]

Who cares, it was 19 years ago, Bulls win, everyones happy. A camera might let you in on a play, but it doesn't make Jordan finals MVP.

Green you have no proof that other teams were doing it, the Bulls got caught. Had this been the Lakers doing it, you would be one of the first people to jump in and say "well the Lakers got caught, and they are a bunch of cheaters, I bet no one else does it at all, especially not the Bulls, I would know, I'm connected"

Okay, I think you've misunderstood, as well.  I'm of the belief that all teams in professional sports do this.  And frankly, I'd be surprised if they don't considering how much money is at stake for them.  I'm not saying it's right, I just think it happens on a regular basis.

And you misunderstood where I understood that and said you have 0 proof of this. Only one team has been caught of this, the Pats, thats it.

If only one team has been caught then why are you claiming the Bulls were caught?  Did you re-watch the same clip that sulingman did?

Obviously I mean OTHER than the Pats.

[sulingman]

Who cares, it was 19 years ago, Bulls win, everyones happy. A camera might let you in on a play, but it doesn't make Jordan finals MVP.

Green you have no proof that other teams were doing it, the Bulls got caught. Had this been the Lakers doing it, you would be one of the first people to jump in and say "well the Lakers got caught, and they are a bunch of cheaters, I bet no one else does it at all, especially not the Bulls, I would know, I'm connected"

Okay, I think you've misunderstood, as well.  I'm of the belief that all teams in professional sports do this.  And frankly, I'd be surprised if they don't considering how much money is at stake for them.  I'm not saying it's right, I just think it happens on a regular basis.

Thanks for clarifying that we did indeed understand. What a relief.

[sulingman]

Wow just when I thought this was the thread that wouldn't die, I found a tangent to swiftly kill it off.
Just call me sul "the matador" ingman

[Mild Sauce]

Nice try

I'm dead serious. I just saw the game. Game 3, '91 Finals, Bulls break up a Lakers play and Mike Fratello talks about how they uncovered a spy cam incident involving da Bulls. It was on Hardwood Classics on NBAATV.

Nobody remembers this?

I'm still doubtful. If it was true, then either it was a common occurrence, or we would've heard about it MUCH more by this point, especially when the whole Patriots spycam thing was happening. I'd have to actually hear it myself and in its proper context.

No need to play the ostrich with the head in the sand.
Game 3, 91 Finals.

And Green, they were referring to the Bulls, not every team

How was I playing ostrich? Just because you throw a game out there you think that's supposed to be enough? I don't recall hearing it when it happened, you know it would've been brought up during the whole Patriots scandal, all I'm looking for is some proof before I really believe it. Proof or not, I'm not calling you a liar, but I'm just saying that I won't believe it until I have some real proof.

[ballers101]

So can we all agree it is not a tragedy?

[lil_flip_remix]

So can we all agree it is not a tragedy?

Ask GW.

[Jason Rubin]

So can we all agree it is not a tragedy?

Ask GW.

It's a tragedy.  What's an even bigger tragedy, though, is the state of this forum and how baiting and spamming are encouraged to unprecedented levels here there days.

[Stinkinbishop]

In fairness, you started some of it in the other thread.

[chelo]

We should need to revisit the definition of tragedy.

[sulingman]

So can we all agree it is not a tragedy?

Ask GW.

It's a tragedy.  What's an even bigger tragedy, though, is the state of this forum and how baiting and spamming are encouraged to unprecedented levels here there days.

No, that's a travesty.

[Jason Rubin]

In fairness, you started some of it in the other thread.

Not really.  All I did was point out an injustice.  I had every right to reaffirm that after all the bashing I was getting in the end I was right.

[madawg49]

See?  Even Jesus approves, Greenwing.

[DeronWilliams]

So can we all agree it is not a tragedy?

Ask GW.

It's a tragedy.  What's an even bigger tragedy, though, is the state of this forum and how baiting and spamming are encouraged to unprecedented levels here there days.