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« on: July 18, 2006, 11:55:51 am »
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Sweet Home Chicago

When the Chicago Bulls signed center Ben Wallace away from Detroit to the tune of a four-year, $60 million contract last week, basketball's statistical punditry almost unanimously panned the move.The major complaint was that the pact will pay Wallace a whopping sum for his age 35 and 36 seasons.

That couldn't have taxed the brain cells too much; any long-term NBA contract that takes its recipient past the age of 35 is going to represent an inefficient expenditure.

What this carping doesn't take into account is the short term. How much better will the Bulls be for the first two years of the deal? Is the signing of Wallace, when combined with the Bulls' other offseason moves, enough to propel them through the Eastern Conference playoffs and into the NBA Finals?

The second issue that commentators took with the Chicago's signing of the reigning Defensive Player of the Year is that the Bulls were already a top defensive team, ranking sixth last season in Defensive Efficiency (points per 100 possessions).Their weakness was on offense, where the team ranked 22nd in Offensive Efficiency.

Wallace is an notoriously bad offensive player (he has no post up moves, nor a mid-range jump shot, and he's the only key player in the league that is worse than Shaquille O'Neal at shooting free throws). It seems odd to spend money — lots of money — to fortify a team strength, but that's the inefficiency of the free-agent market. The Bulls had money to spend, but their room under the salary cap is going to vanish soon due to upcoming contract renewals of guard Kirk Hinrich and forward Andres Nocioni. So they spent on the best fit available.

Wallace's signing should make the Bulls a better defensive team, and that difference, perhaps as much as four points per 100 possessions, will make them an elite defensive team. Also, the Bulls' offensive style may minimize Wallace's offensive weaknesses.

Unlike most stellar defensive teams, Chicago plays an up-tempo style. They ranked fifth in Pace Factor (possessions per game) last season at 92.9.Wallace's last two Pistons teams ranked 29th and 30th in Pace Factor, meaning that Wallace almost always had to find his points in a half-court offensive set that highlighted his inabilities.With the Bulls, he will have numerous chances to finish on fast breaks or score on put backs from shots before a defense gets set.

Improvement on the defensive end may take the Bulls from a .500 team to a 50-win team, but it will be improvement on offense that will transform them into Finals contenders. And that's where things get murky in Chicago's other offseason moves, because most are also designed to improve the defense.

Drafting 6-foot-9-inch forward Tyrus Thomas out of LSU and 6-foot-5-inch Swiss guard Thabo Sefolosha were both good moves that will likely pay dividends at both ends of the floor down the road. But right now the two rookies are pegged to be solid defenders with emerging offensive games. The signing of Wallace made center Tyson Chandler expendable, and he was duly sent to New Orleans in exchange for veteran power forward P.J. Brown and swingman J.R. Smith. Pending a physical, Smith, who probably didn't even have time to consult a Chicago real estate broker, will be sent to Denver as part of a three-way deal that will enable the Bulls to sign Dallas defensive ace Adrian Griffin.

Chicago sports fans love their defense, but this is verging on the absurd. The Bulls' moves look like an attempt to pitch shutouts in the NBA. The team's prospects for improvement offensively will have to come from existing talent, but it really isn't a bad gamble. Despite trading away top scorer Eddy Curry just before the season began, the Bulls actually improved offensively from 2004–05 to 2005–06, going from 26th in Offensive Efficiency two seasons ago to 22nd last year.The bulk of the improvement came from Nocioni, who averaged 13 points per game this season, and forward Luol Deng, who tossed in 14.3. Both players are entering their third year and Deng is only 21,so continued improvement is reasonable to expect. In addition, all three Bulls guards — Hinrich, Ben Gordon, and Chris Duhon — improved their shooting percentages last year and all are still on the upward arcs of their careers.

The big wild card in the Bulls' forecast is former Knick Michael Sweetney. Sweets has an excellent offensive game, but his poor conditioning and weak defensive game put in him coach Scott Skiles's doghouse. This is his contract year, so if he finds his game (as players in his position often do) then the Bulls' offense could take a big jump forward, though that would still make it only middle of the pack. Still, a middle-of-thepack offense paired with a top-three defense should move the Bulls into the Eastern Conference elite and have them playing deep into May.

I suspect that the Bulls made their moves with an eye toward 2007–08.Wallace still figures to be a force then and players like Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, and Nocioni will be entering their primes. Add a maturing Thomas and Sefolosha to the mix and you could have a championship contender. Or you could have enough young players to deal to Minnesota for Kevin Garnett. Either way, it's a good deal for Bulls fans.

Chicago's off-season moves go against one important tenet of team building: get younger when possible. The Bulls have had eight years of a youth movement, and Team President John Paxson — as well as many hoops fans in the Windy City — wearied of waiting for players like Curry, Chandler, and Jamal Crawford to mature. While he has assembled a boatload of young talent, Paxson is now aiming at a maturity movement by bringing in the 32-year-old Wallace, 37-year-old Brown, and 32-year-old Griffin. The moves narrow the Bulls' window of contention, but should improve their chances at glory.

http://www.nysun.com/article/36204?page_no=1
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2006, 01:08:05 pm »
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Good read - thanks for posting it.

I've been saying all along that the offensive improvement will come from within.
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2006, 01:30:04 pm »
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Cool Look at it this way, Ben Wallace can also help them offensively by filling Ben Gordon's lack of size in D- basically indirectly allows Bulls to play Gordon more frequently!
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2006, 01:31:21 pm »
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Quote from: "pittsburger"
Cool Look at it this way, Ben Wallace can also help them offensively by filling Ben Gordon's lack of size in D- basically indirectly allows Bulls to play Gordon more frequently!
how so?  ben's actually shorter than the guy he replaces.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2006, 01:44:25 pm »
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Quote from: "Josh"
Quote from: "pittsburger"
Cool Look at it this way, Ben Wallace can also help them offensively by filling Ben Gordon's lack of size in D- basically indirectly allows Bulls to play Gordon more frequently!
how so?  ben's actually shorter than the guy he replaces.

word Wallace is a undersized center but at least hez aggresive right?!......
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2006, 01:48:12 pm »
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I think bulls will be better next year just because their 5 best players from last season, (Hinrich, Nocioni, Deng, Gordon, Duhon) will have 1 more year under their belts.  I think Kirk will finally get the props he deserves and will be mentioned along with James, Anthony, Wade, and Bosh.  Noc, Deng, Duhon, and Gordon will be a lot better too, more confident.  With Big Ben backing them up and giving them some confidence, the sky's the limit.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2006, 01:52:22 pm »
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Quote from: "Josh"
Quote from: "pittsburger"
Cool Look at it this way, Ben Wallace can also help them offensively by filling Ben Gordon's lack of size in D- basically indirectly allows Bulls to play Gordon more frequently!
how so?  ben's actually shorter than the guy he replaces.

Because Wallace does not pick up fouls like chandler, and can stay in the game longer.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2006, 03:29:36 pm »
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Quote from: "sagaliba"
Quote from: "Josh"
Quote from: "pittsburger"
Cool Look at it this way, Ben Wallace can also help them offensively by filling Ben Gordon's lack of size in D- basically indirectly allows Bulls to play Gordon more frequently!
how so?  ben's actually shorter than the guy he replaces.

Because Wallace does not pick up fouls like chandler, and can stay in the game longer.


Ben doesnt pick up fouls like Chandler because he has always had a great defending PF to help him out on D so that he could roam around all he wants. If (whoever starts at PF this year for the bulls) is a very good "on the ball defender" then Ben should have a great year. If not, look for Ben to get into some foul trouble.
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2006, 03:37:46 pm »
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Quote from: "JSouth#23"
I think bulls will be better next year just because their 5 best players from last season, (Hinrich, Nocioni, Deng, Gordon, Duhon) will have 1 more year under their belts.  I think Kirk will finally get the props he deserves and will be mentioned along with James, Anthony, Wade, and Bosh.  Noc, Deng, Duhon, and Gordon will be a lot better too, more confident.  With Big Ben backing them up and giving them some confidence, the sky's the limit.

I couldnt agree with you more, having Wallace in there will force turnovers and bad shots which leads to Chicago's fast break.

Regardless of what people are saying i think Wallace is one of the missing links. PJ Brown, Walace and Griffin will bring the swagger and intensitity that the Bulls often lacked last year. They will calm the guyz down and help them out in crucial situations
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2006, 05:08:33 pm »
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Ben doesnt pick up fouls like Chandler because he has always had a great defending PF to help him out on D so that he could roam around all he wants. If (whoever starts at PF this year for the bulls) is a very good "on the ball defender" then Ben should have a great year. If not, look for Ben to get into some foul trouble.


First, Ben does roam and get blocks that way but that's because he is alert and active -- not to mention athletic -- on the defensive end, much the same way as Andre Kirilenko.  Second, Ben was defensive player of the year before the other Wallace ever arrived.  Third, nobody picks up fouls like Chandler.  Nobody.  Therefore, Ben Wallace will play more minutes at a more efficient level than Tyson ever did.  In conclusion, Wallace will help win more games.  Period.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2006, 06:02:39 pm »
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Ben doesnt pick up fouls like Chandler because he has always had a great defending PF to help him out on D so that he could roam around all he wants. If (whoever starts at PF this year for the bulls) is a very good "on the ball defender" then Ben should have a great year. If not, look for Ben to get into some foul trouble.


First, Ben does roam and get blocks that way but that's because he is alert and active -- not to mention athletic -- on the defensive end, much the same way as Andre Kirilenko.  Second, Ben was defensive player of the year before the other Wallace ever arrived.  Third, nobody picks up fouls like Chandler.  Nobody.  Therefore, Ben Wallace will play more minutes at a more efficient level than Tyson ever did.  In conclusion, Wallace will help win more games.  Period.


Cliff Robinson was a GREAT defender when he was in Detroit before Rasheed got there. He works hard and IS athletic, just making the point that most, if not all, of his blocks are from the weak side when he is HELPING, not gaurding his own man. He WILL help the bulls win more games, just saying that how many is fairly dependent on how defensivly solid the PF playing with him is. If they arent solid defensivly, look for Ben to get into foul trouble at times.
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2006, 06:41:13 pm »
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Quote from: "pittsburger"
Cool Look at it this way, Ben Wallace can also help them offensively by filling Ben Gordon's lack of size in D- basically indirectly allows Bulls to play Gordon more frequently!
how so?  ben's actually shorter than the guy he replaces.


Height = overrated.  Wingspan is what matters.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2006, 09:01:57 am »
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Cool Look at it this way, Ben Wallace can also help them offensively by filling Ben Gordon's lack of size in D- basically indirectly allows Bulls to play Gordon more frequently!
how so?  ben's actually shorter than the guy he replaces.

That's why even though Bullets was the team that discovered him, they finally traded him, thinking that he was not tall enough to play center, for -- a center.  Just see what Ben has developed into!
Size is not a problem for him, his age may be!

As a long time Bullets/Wizards fan, I wish him well, and happy that he got his payday!
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2006, 09:34:25 am »
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okay, guys, I know ben wallace plays great on defense.  I know the six nine doesn't really matter.  however, the poster said "he would help make up for  gordon's lack  of height on defense."  well, he doesn't, really.  he helps with penetration, but perimeter guarding isn't his thing.  and he still makes the team shorter.  not that it matters much, just that he's shorter.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2006, 07:36:08 pm »
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With an great interior defensive player like BW behind you it allows a player to guard an opponent more agressively on the perimeter. That was the point I took from the poster. I don't totally agree with it in Ben Gordons case.
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