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« Reply #90 on: July 02, 2012, 11:05:39 am » |
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I think the Bulls may just be waiting to strike. Let all these teams exhaust themselves trying to make a trade an then BAM, Bulls go ahead an make a offer. Deng Noah Charlotte Pick, whomever else they want besides taj an Rose. I don't see the magic wanting taj anyways because they have solid pf's already. But ya, everything you guys are saying is correct. Get him now, let him settle in for a year an throw him a buttload of money....I don't see him leaving us. Bulls won't resign a 30yr old Deng or a 32yr old Noah. This is Rose's team, its time to get young an reload.
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« Reply #91 on: July 02, 2012, 11:16:26 am » |
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right.
but I see Dwight going to GS or Hou, they`ve got more young pieces i think.
all this Dwightmare its really breaking my balls hahah im getting tired xD
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« Reply #92 on: July 02, 2012, 12:01:10 pm » |
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Way I see things. I think they would be happy this trade gave them a chance to lose Deng 2 years before schedule. And Noah, I like Noah. Big fan. It's hard for me to see him go. But it has to be done. And the Bobcats pick, We've discussed in here, how that could end up a mid lottery pick anyway, And it's not unrestricted until 2016...smh. Orlando could really use the pick, and it could draft them another prospect to build for in the future. Alot of people say Orlando wants young players to rebuild. I have read and dont feel they do. They just built a new stadium, and need to sell tickets. The Bulls deal would give them very good others. And then they would have to go after a seat filler, But with an expiring contract from Deng, and thier own salaries either being traded or coming off the books shortly. They will be able to do that in short time.
If the Lakers will part with Bynum, They could get him. But still debating if Bynum and a filler is better then what the Bulls can offer in Noah & Deng. With the Lakers deal you get another Big that you can sell to your fans. But he comes with baggage, and theyve been there done that with Howard. With the Bulls deal, You get an All-Star in Deng, A very good center in Noah, and the flexablitiy to mold your team by going after players in a year. And a draft pick that could very well get you a star player.
The Magic have spend several years doing the BIG man formula. First with Shaquille and now with Howard. So they could want to go in a different direction now. The years of the Dinosaurs have gone, and the current NBA is a guard dominated league. Thier coaching choice will play big into what thier future plans are. This whole thing is a big game of music chairs. All I ask from Bulls FO is to play that game to win. If someone else sits on the chair, Oh well were out.
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« Reply #93 on: July 02, 2012, 12:48:26 pm » |
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Bulls are not gonna trade for Dwight Howard
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Bulls / Bills / Marlins / Noles ben gordon was a guy he trusted and always passed to when he was open. those other guys are not the kind of shooters i'm talking about, they are more mid range guys. how many times did we see rose get hinrich, deng or salmons a wide open shot and those guys would pump fake then try to step in to get a better shot and end up passing up a wide open 3 for a contested 20 footer? they are not the kind of guy's rose needs. i said when he was drafted that deng and hinrich had to go and |
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« Reply #94 on: July 02, 2012, 04:44:27 pm » |
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If the Nets get Joe Johnson....they just gave up all their flexibility next year to sign Dwight. He's going to have to pick a new destination. Hang in there folks...this should last a little while longer.
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« Reply #95 on: July 02, 2012, 05:22:04 pm » |
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If the Nets get Joe Johnson....they just gave up all their flexibility next year to sign Dwight. He's going to have to pick a new destination. Hang in there folks...this should last a little while longer.
Are the Bulls even considering ? Or are they just keeping the leaks sealed tight ? Looks like Brooklyn is out. So now we want Williams to sign there in Brooklyn. So Dwight can't go to Dallas to play with Williams. And Hope the Lakers arent willing to give up Bynum. But wouldn't it take more then Bynum ? Im glad thier not talking about Bulls Bulls Bulls but a mention would make me feel comfortable ESPN. Did you guys see the Marquis Teague intro, Gar was talking about Asik & Free Agency, and said something about it taking " the rest of the week, And possibly the rest of the month. Sounded like they were waiting on something that wasn't stable....Dwight Howard? WATCH THIS VIDEO AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ?: http://www.csnchicago.com/pages/video?PID=HpJihj8h64zJFTTL3ZVyIPdWuuvaCqoY |
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« Reply #96 on: July 02, 2012, 05:30:57 pm » |
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IMO anytime you have a player of that caliber available....YOU HAVE TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT. If Pax,Gar an Jerry really want to win championships an surround our beloved MVP DRose with a guy that can take them to the top....they have to be considering it. Especailly with the Heats weakest positions at the Center an PG spots. PLUS you can Amnesty Boozer soon! OH YA...we have to be thinking about it...an if we arnt, we are RETARDED.
And yes, the Lakers deff. would have to trade more then Bynum an everyone else on that roster really dont have nice contracts that would make the trade work. Bynum makes 14mil, Gasol 18mil, Kobe 25mil. Thats pretty much their team. Everyone else has contracts 5mil an lower. Is a Bynum an Metta World Peace deal better then Noah, Deng, Charlotte pick an 1 of Brewer,Watson,RIP, Korver, future pick?
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« Reply #97 on: July 02, 2012, 05:38:53 pm » |
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Is a Bynum an Metta World Peace deal better then Noah, Deng, Charlotte pick an 1 of Brewer,Watson,RIP, Korver, future pick?
Hell Naw. And thou Bynum has upside and is better offensively. To me its alot of potential. Noah's numbers are very close, For a guy that just rebounds and plays defense, and has never been coached up the way the Lakers have coached up Bynum. You should post a deal from every team in the league will a chance at him, and we'll compare them. Sometimes I wonder if D12 is a illuminati puppet ? |
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« Reply #98 on: July 02, 2012, 06:54:30 pm » |
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Is a Nets deal of Lopez, Humphries, Wallace and Brooks and multiple future firsts better than what the Bulls could offer. Just heard that one on ESPN radio. Trade can not go through until the 15th of December though.
This is not a deal in the works just something NBA insider thinks may be the Nets next move.
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« Reply #99 on: July 02, 2012, 07:01:18 pm » |
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« Reply #100 on: July 02, 2012, 07:48:12 pm » |
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About time....but it is bleacherreport, an most people who write there are fans. BUT I also saw a article on hoopsworld a couple weeks ago about it. And if the Bulls were interested months ago, I'm sure they still are, especailly with Dwights destinations dwindling.
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« Reply #101 on: July 12, 2012, 10:01:53 am » |
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The Bulls have waited like a lion in the grass. Thier talks with Orlando GM Rob Hennigan have been luke warm. But Im thinking thats cause they are waiting for a great deal & to see if Dwight Howard (I know this will come as a shock) changes his mind. After signing Lopez, It's becoming more and more a reality to Howard that Brooklyn has moved on. The Bulls are hoping he decides to catch a different bus a CTA bus to the United Center. They have teased and leaked names (Deng, Noah & Boozer) but haven't committed to anything yet. So they have not offered thier full package for Howard yet. And will only do so with a commitment from Howard. Not saying that they still won't make a trade, but until Howard commits to Chicago, Orlando doesn't get thier full offer. But Orlando knows what the Bulls & Lakers full offers would be, And they like them better then anything thier hearing. So now it's get Dwight to commit to a bigger list, or take a half shelve offer. Gm Rob Hennigan has leak stories to ESPN in a hope to get someone to jump the gun. But he is dealing with The Chicago Bulls & The Los Angeles Lakers, Not some B team that changes thier uniforms ever 5 years.
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« Reply #102 on: July 12, 2012, 11:32:46 am » |
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orlando wants young players and to get rid of cap space man they aren't taking anybody from the bulls
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Bulls / Bills / Marlins / Noles ben gordon was a guy he trusted and always passed to when he was open. those other guys are not the kind of shooters i'm talking about, they are more mid range guys. how many times did we see rose get hinrich, deng or salmons a wide open shot and those guys would pump fake then try to step in to get a better shot and end up passing up a wide open 3 for a contested 20 footer? they are not the kind of guy's rose needs. i said when he was drafted that deng and hinrich had to go and |
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« Reply #103 on: July 12, 2012, 01:14:26 pm » |
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Bulls have young players and assets. Nikola,Charlotte pick, Noah, Teague, RIP Hamilton expiring contract of 5mil. Just gotta offer it.
Chris Sheridan is reporting that the Bulls an Hawks should be in play for Dwight. In that case, I think the Bulls have the upper hand especially if they trade for him this year. He wont leave for Atlanta with everything he has here imo.
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« Reply #104 on: July 12, 2012, 03:52:30 pm » |
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Mirotic is gonna be good. So I'd hold onto him, Unless the Bulls know something we don't about issues with his buyout or his willingness to come to the US. Which I have read some about. The Bobcats pick can go. Orlando wants to send out Dwight plus some Veteran salaries. But to do that they have to take salary back in return. So teams that are offering a "rebuilding" package of just picks and really young players with potential won't work. Thier gonna have to take on some player salaries. From what I have read the Lakers are cool with sending Bynum but Bynum has to agree to an extention as well as Dwight. And why would Bynum go to Orlando (rebuilding) when he could be a Laker (contender)? Or choose his team when he becomes an UFA. So thats a whole other issue. So LA is willing to move Bynum straight up for Howard but if Gasol is added to the deal, then LA (kobe) would need insurance Dwight will be thier long term. Which Dwight has several issues with that location, One his constant comparision to Shaq would not die and would get worst, Two he will be like the second or third player on a team on big name stars. Orlando has not yet given up completely but Dwight's comments have made trading him a Dwightmare all in itself. Teams have played Orlando they way they should, And backed them into a corner. Eventually, GM Rob Hennigan will just have to get what he can and free the franchise from this completely. Thier is no win for Orlando, unless they draft some stud with the picks they will recieve for Howard. As for the Bulls, Time and Patience is in thier favor, Orlando has yet to find better trade partners, and Gar Forman to his credit is smart to let this situation bleed a little before they attempt the Kill shot. What Dwight wants he can't get, And not sure if ever with all the contracts the Nets have now. So he will eventually have to choose a new home. And the Bulls know that plays to thier favor. So now they sit and wait and keep patting Hennigan on the back Like Paul in Godfellas until they strike a deal or not. "So you want me to go into business wit you thats what your telling me ? "
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